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October 25, 2011

Nurse: No one who cares will give you propofol

Posted: 03:10 PM ET

Nurse practitioner Cherilyn Lee testified that Michael Jackson asked her to give him propofol to help him sleep. Fighting back tears, Lee said she told Jackson that nobody who cares or has your best interests at heart will give you propofol.

When Jackson first asked Lee for the anesthetic, she says she didn’t know much about it. Lee says she researched propofol and found out pretty quickly that it wasn’t used to treat sleep disorders and it wasn’t safe for use in a home setting.

Lee says she spent the night at Jackson's house so she could observe his sleep patterns. When Jackson woke up after about three hours of sleep, she says he told her that propofol was the only thing that would get him to sleep right away. 

Lee testified that she warned Jackson of the side effects the drugs including:

-Dizziness

-Agitation

-Chills

-Delirium

-Fever

-Memory loss

-Death

Lee said she asked Jackson, "What happens if you don’t wake up?" Jackson replied that he would be OK and only needed a doctor to monitor him. Judge Michael Pastor then gave Lee a moment to compose herself as she was brought to tears.

Complete courtroom coverage of the Conrad Murray trial airs live on HLN from gavel to gavel. It’s also on In Session on truTV from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. ET every weekday.

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Cheryl   October 25th, 2011 3:17 pm ET

MJ should have been well rested considering he had given a live performance in so many many years. I can imagine that going on tour can be stressful but in my opinion he should have already been very well rested and had enough energy to go on tour without diprivan.


lesia   October 25th, 2011 3:21 pm ET

I agree with the NP Ms. Lee. No dr. should have given this. Again as I have said, I am a 15 year experience trauma icu nurse at a level one trauma center. This is a drug that is not allowed to be used unless pt. is intubated, or about to be intubated, cardiac monitoring, continuous blood pressure monitoring, o2 sat monitoring . And again only way to sleep. Dr. murray should have know that yes it puts you out in a few seconds almost immediately, but it only keeps you out if it's a continuous drip. If you just get a bolus, it wears off in 3-5 min. so he would not have slept. Regardless of it all , no matter how much michael jackson asked, he's a doctor he should have never have given this outside of a hospital. And how is he able to buy this?? Where are the people who sold this to him outside of the hospital? they should be accountable to


Deb LA   October 25th, 2011 3:24 pm ET

JVM: As to your point about "patient responsibility"...
Let's just say... Michael would have been *more* responsible if he had ever been accorded the proper pre-testing, medical history and informed consent in the first place. If Dr. Murray didn't didn't perform HIS due diligence... then how could anyone hold MJ to account ?? If that were even the issue. Hm?


Lynne   October 25th, 2011 3:25 pm ET

It seems as if Michael Jackson has just testified from his grave! In his own words, "I need a doctor to monitor me while I'm sleeping". That's what it really boils down to. Regardless of who administered the propofol, had Dr. Murray only done what Michael Jackson was asking for, including monitoring, Michael Jackson would still be alive today.


Donna D.   October 25th, 2011 3:30 pm ET

Michael Jackson was aware of the risks and side effects of Propofol. He was attempting to recruit Nurse Lee as the nurse Dr Murray needed to assist him in monitoring him. I don't believe he was looking for Nurse Lee to directly administer the drug. That's why he continuously communicated to her, the need to be monitored' ...he was hoping Nurse Lee would be agreeable to traveling with them while he toured.


Donna   October 25th, 2011 3:30 pm ET

I strongly disagree with your defense attorney comments regarding the nurse, and the jury giving a laugh. I take that laugh as what was the point in bringing her to testify, she did not help the defense case, she said clearly, she told Michael about the dangers of propofol, and anyone who cared about his well being would not offer it to him. Whether or not Michael was seeking out someone, Murray made a decision to be his drug supplier and on top of that administered it and abandon him afterwards CAUSING his death.


Veronica   October 25th, 2011 3:30 pm ET

If Conrad Murry is not convicted of involuntary manslaughter, what message are we conveying to Doctors?.." It's okay for a doctor to operate under the radar an not be held accountable?"


andre   October 25th, 2011 3:31 pm ET

what it all comes down to is that its not what mj wanted its all about the good doctor not practicing safe medical practice,as being a doctor he has the responsibility to treat his patients to the best of his ability and that was not done by a long shot ........... the good doctor is going down ...not because of giving in to mj but because of just plain stupidity


Bill B   October 25th, 2011 3:33 pm ET

Did anyone note that the nurse testified that her education included a PhD from an online college in the mid-80's. She went on to say it was Clayton College where she received her PhD. This may me wonder as online distance learning in the early days of the internet was pretty much llimited to diploma mills. The nurse is referring to Clayton College of Natural Health, which in the mid-80's was pretty much nothing more than a diploma mill. You received your degree for paying the tuition. The school eventually closed later on and reopened it's doors apparently, but at least one state (Oregon) does not recognize the degrees from this school. This makes me wonder just how valid the PhD the nurse has is....


Rick   October 25th, 2011 3:33 pm ET

The nurse HAD to take a break because she was having a Panic Attack!!!


Deb LA   October 25th, 2011 3:38 pm ET

To the article title: //Nurse: No one who cares will give you propofol//

Actually... that's it in a nutshell. Michael was a person who felt UNCARED FOR... haunting him since childhood. Seeking physicians — not drug dealers — for special in-home treatments (remember the hyperbaric chamber?) is another cry for being CARED for, 'cause he'd *presumably* have their undivided attention, even if he had to pay for it. So it is sadder still that the person he trusted and hired to CARE for him — a way to manage his childhood feelings, is the one that did far more damage in 2 months, than the effects of his father or stolen childhood ever could. smh


edith   October 25th, 2011 3:40 pm ET

"No one who cares for you will give you PROPOFOL." It is said that Mchael was doctor shopping for someone to give him Propofol. That may be the case, but in the end he should not have found a licensed doctor to do this, if the doctor really cared about the patient he would not have provided such a drug. Look how many doctor's who have said it is not a drug for insominia, and yet you have a doctor providing it for sleep to a patient. What is wrong with this picture. Who is in control here the doctor or the patient? Who ordered bottles and bottles of Propofol? Who administered it for at least 30 days without notes or documentation? A doctor who deviates from the normal state of care is at fault regardless. Michael would not have been able to acquire this drug without a doctor's permission. Murray gave his permission for 150k, simple as that.


Jamie   October 25th, 2011 3:43 pm ET

In my opinion, a "junkie" doesn't bother with vitamins and supplements.


TeresaJarvis   October 25th, 2011 3:45 pm ET

If you go back to previous statements by the nurse Cherilyn you can see the same reactions long before this trial started.I think she felt bad that he would not listen to what she told Michael and that by law she has to maintain a nurse and patient confidence,she can't divulge what she and Michael spoke about.I think her hands were tied and she loved Michael as an entertainer and she is very emotional about his death.


Bonnie Gerry   October 25th, 2011 3:46 pm ET

I believe Murry is guilty of mal practice not murder. I believe M.Jackson was a druggy and would have killed himself at any cost. If it was not Murry Micheal would have had another Dr. give him the drup propofol.

anyone taking that amount of drugs in a day would kill themselves

Jackson's family would make no difference to me. Where were they when he was given the drugs why didn;t they sit with him to be sure the doctor did everything they wanted.????????

You persecute the wrong perosn.


Bill   October 25th, 2011 3:48 pm ET

What is the judge referring to when siting rule 351 &352?


Roger H. Brarda, Ph.D.   October 25th, 2011 3:55 pm ET

Michael Jackson's assurance to nurse Lee that Propofol will be O.K. as long as somebody monitors him with the equipment while he sleeps speaks volumes as to Dr. Murray's guilt of omission.


Kim Garcia   October 25th, 2011 3:56 pm ET

Plenty of people need prescribed meds to sleep . Are we all addicts? Yes, doctors do medicate the symptoms rather than solve the problem. The pharmaceutical companies along with doctors who have less time than a sitcom to meet treat a patient are part of a big problem.


April Minshall   October 25th, 2011 3:59 pm ET

What I find interesting is that no one has commented on the fact that the doctor left perscription drugs in the company of a patient. In Canada they are locked up from the patients in all situations whether hospital or clinic. The fact alone that he left it negligently open to anyone in the house is in my opinion manslaughter at the very least. Doesn't the USA have requirements for securing the these perscriptions?


Phyllis   October 25th, 2011 4:06 pm ET

I'm so frustrated by the "addict" bandwagon everyone is jumping on. I'm not disputing Michael Jackson was taking medication for sleep but to continue painting him as a desperate addict is irresponsible given that the toxicology and coroner's reports show no drugs except the ones given by Dr. Murray.

I read the 51 page autopsy report and the page listing the prescriptions found in Michael Jackson's home show 75% were prescribed by Dr. Murray. Additionally, if you look at each bottles prescribed amount vs. how many pills remained in each bottle, you will see that most of the bottles had many pills still in them. When you compare each one's remaining contents to the date it was issued, it appears to me that Michael was taking the medication in a repsonsible manner. It he wasn't, then all of those bottles would have been empty if he had been over medicating himself as one would expect an addict to do.


tina   October 25th, 2011 4:08 pm ET

I am so tired of everyone calling Michael a drug addict. Remmeber the only drugs in his body was the ones Murray gave him. If he was using drugs it would have been in his body and found during the autopsy. So stop speculating.


Tina   October 25th, 2011 4:18 pm ET

As a person who grew up listening to MJ I'm deeply disturbed at what the defense is doing. Protraying him to be nothing more than a junky and ruining the legacy that he worked so hard to build. So sad!! RIP MJ


Heather   October 25th, 2011 4:24 pm ET

Regarding testimony today. It's beside the point that MJ asked several people to give him Propofol. I believe it was said on Dr. Drew that if MJ had asked people to hit him over the head with a sledge hammer, how many would have actually done that?? Conrad Murray is the BONEHEAD that went ahead and gave it to him even though he knew himself that it was not a good idea!! Or at least that's what he said in the police interview. It makes no difference that he was an addict, the SO CALLED doctor, Murray, is the one who ordered the medication. MJ could never have gotten it on his own!!


Heather   October 25th, 2011 4:28 pm ET

No No No. Lauren Lake is wrong. As far as telling a crack addict it's not good for them, a crack addict can get own their crack. MJ couldn't get the drug on his own!!!! People addicted to alcohol can go to the store and buy their "drug". Ryan is right. It all boils down to the doctor.


Debbie   October 25th, 2011 4:28 pm ET

This defense team is REALLY good at getting witnesses to testify for the prosecution!!!


Lisa Freira   October 25th, 2011 4:29 pm ET

Bottom Line? The patient can ask for any drug they choose. It's the Doctors sole responsibility as to what they choose to actually prescribe. The Doctor has the License, The Doctor has the knowledge, the Doctor has the experience. Personally I know exactly what it feels like to not be able to sleep for months at a time. A person starts to feel very desperate and frustrated. It's normal to try and seek someone who will say what you want to hear. It's still the individual doctor who makes the choice. I used some of the sleep aids Michael Jackson used and I know how dangerous and addictive they can be. I never had the pressure he had for performing on stage. I also know what it feels like to have a Doctor said NO. No matter how much I pleaded .


desiree   October 25th, 2011 4:53 pm ET

Why havent they brought up the comment that Murray yelled "does anyone know CPR? Let alone qualified to give propofol to Michael without knowing the basic of saving a life! He is a disgrace to anyone in the medical field.


Pat   October 25th, 2011 5:00 pm ET

MJ literally died because he trusted his physician–Conrad Murray. While the testimony throughout the trial suggests Michael was aware of some of the risks of Propofol, MJ believed that Dr. Murray would take the necessary precautions to minimize any complications. Misplaced trust can kill and on June 25, 2009, it killed MJ!


dm nash   October 25th, 2011 5:57 pm ET

It seems ALL the others doctors took / kept notes....warned MJ....did their research etc. Can the defense EVEN show that their client CM researched the drug on the office computer or such device or anywhere for that matter? Did he do due dillegence at least in learning about the drug or how to....any notes etc. OR did he just give it? Any records how he decided on 4 gallons...for what period of time etc? MJ's s'possed demand may even be due to side effect of med – that doc didn't recognize ...since he never researched the drug.
It seems he acted blindly; bringing up other doctors prescriptions (not in his system) without ever contacting any of them – so that he as doctor – would know. Even if it's a nutritional supplement it should be known – due to interactions. Even CM coctail of other sleep meds that night were reckless on their own ...and then....


mike pniewski   October 25th, 2011 5:59 pm ET

this case is simply gredemoney. michael jackson is paying murray 150,000 a mont..A MONTH. Jackson wants propofol Murray figures if he dosen't accomadate him, goodbye 150,000. money pushed him to give him the medicine. murray knows its dangerous, but is blinded by the money. he hopes nothing goes wrong, but it does. he probably gave him propofol many times before and nothing went wrong. murray is not much of a doctor. he should have obeyed his hypocratic oath, and said, "fire me if you want, but im not giving you that drug"
murray should have admitted that and hed probably just lose his license. of course in this country he could probably get another one in another state or country.


mike pniewski   October 25th, 2011 6:01 pm ET

this case is simply over money. michael jackson is paying murray 150,000 a mont..A MONTH. Jackson wants propofol Murray figures if he dosen't accomadate him, goodbye 150,000. money pushed him to give him the medicine. murray knows its dangerous, but is blinded by the money. he hopes nothing goes wrong, but it does. he probably gave him propofol many times before and nothing went wrong. murray is not much of a doctor. he should have obeyed his hypocratic oath, and said, "fire me if you want, but im not giving you that drug"
murray should have admitted that and hed probably just lose his license. of course in this country he could probably get another one in another state or country.


Glenn   October 25th, 2011 7:26 pm ET

As much as i would like to think that Dr. Murray's defence team is doing a outstanding job. They are not. They have dropped the ball at the 1st yard line with every witness. Dump Trucks I Bet i can go down to the corner
and just pick anybody to represent Dr. Murray and come up with a better
team then the one he has. it don't get no worse then that. somebody tell me did they just get out of law school are is it that they are just stupid.
are both


Glenn   October 25th, 2011 7:28 pm ET

Dream team they are not Murray you need help call 911


Glenn   October 25th, 2011 7:31 pm ET

Murray they are killing off Man you need a new legal team


CC80   October 25th, 2011 8:00 pm ET

Awww.... you can tell she was (still is) very fond of Michael and feels so bad for what happened. This is all so sad.


Barbara I;. Whitney   October 25th, 2011 8:44 pm ET

I feel really really bad for the Nurse Practioner... She did her very best above and beyond to keep him safe and healthy... And Michael wouldn't pay attention to the warnings as he was so spoiled with his fame.. He risked everything and drug everyone down with him over his selfish behavior in wanting what he wanted... Very Sad..


Sara   October 25th, 2011 10:03 pm ET

1) Walgren made Nurse Lee look more competent than Chernoff – which once again made the defense appear to be floundering.
2) The ONLY defense that is plausible would be both that MJ tweaked his IN drip, opening a slow Propofol drip to a fast lethal flow AND that Murray was trying to wean MJ from a powerful addiction.

The flaws in this desperate strategy:
- There was no competence, training or evidence of Murray treating a dangerous addiction or tapering propofol with a sound regimen of medical management- nor did Murray ever tell a forthright truth about his perspective on MJ's drug use or what really happened. Murray's cover-up of propofol use is a glaring indication of guilt.


Sara   October 25th, 2011 11:22 pm ET

It now seems like the far-fetched rationale of the 'new' defense strategy is to prove that MJ was under immense pressure to rehearse & perform- that sleep problems were so severe that any compassionate MD would have to balance this professional pressure & economic reality with the clinical situation....a situation where weaning MJ from an established dependency would be psychologically (?) unsound, unsafe (vis-a-vis physical rxn to sleeplessness or withdrawal.

This is could confuse a juror...a juror who chooses to ignore expert medical opinion (OJ redux?) and insert naive 'common sense' that would forgive Murray for accommodating MJ with propofol.


ernest pacheco   October 26th, 2011 12:33 am ET

...true but not true. Look Dr. Murray was MJ employee first and foremost. MJ was paying Dr. Murray $150k a month for a reason? As much as i like Dr. Murray (he's no monster) he made a humongous boo-boo and now must face consequences...let this be a lesson to one and all...the decisions we make in life will either bring us blessings or curses...


Toni   October 26th, 2011 12:47 am ET

I was touched by this woman's testimony. It was obvious to me that she did not want to testify for the defense because her answers were scattered and sometimes not always coherent. Yet her answers for the prosecution were clear and without hesitation. After replaying her testimony it became clear to me that she truly cared for Michael Jackson's welfare.


Angie   October 26th, 2011 9:22 am ET

Given that this nurse says that Michael Jackson asked her specifically for Propofol and that he said that he only needed a doctor to watch him as he slept makes me wonder if Michael Jackson had 'doctor shopped' doctor before and that another doctor before Conrad Murray had agreed to administer the drug in a home setting - could it be that this other doctor was the one that got him hooked on the drug in the first place?


Tracy   October 26th, 2011 10:30 am ET

Dr. Murray may be a good cardiologist and good to his patients, and I don't think anyone is saying he killed Michael Jackson on purpose. (Why would he do that? He was getting paid too well.) BUT...he should have known better than to administer the propofol to Michael in the way he did. If not for Dr. Murray's actions, Michael would not have died that day in the way he did. That makes him responsible for Michael's death, whether Michael gave himself that last dose or not. If the propofol setup had not been there in the first place, Michael would not have died the way he did.


Danielle Ostrum   October 26th, 2011 10:38 am ET

I understand that the defense is going to push character witnesses on the juror to show how caring Dr. Murray was for their community. The question that I would like to hear the prosecution ask is, "Did Dr. Murray ever administer propofol to you? or "Did you go to Dr. Murray for other issues besides cardiac issues?" I understand that he may have been a great doctor in his field, but obviously he stepped way out the parameter of his medical training for Michael Jackson. That alone makes his responsible for Michael's death. Willing to be a "YES" man for the money. Yes that money may have been used for good reasons in his community, but it jeopardized Michael Jackson's care.


Samone   October 26th, 2011 10:45 am ET

The drug addict thing is getting old. For 1 thing he's not here to defend himself. The other thing is that just because he was on pain killers for back issues doesn't mean he's an addict. I am on pain killers for brain trauma (trigeminal Neuropathy) but I am not an addict per my pain Doctor as I don't take more or go out & find more to take. I asked what I was considered since I do feel the w/ draw if I forget to take a pill & he said that I was physically dependent. It makes sense to me. another thing that's bothering me is that Murray said that Jackson would inject himself!! Who in their right mind would let the patient dose himself w/ a drug like that? Please. If that's the case then he just admitted to being the incompetent doctor that he is showing to be. He threw his Hippocratic oath out when he was paid 150k to give MJ that drug in that kind of setting & left the drugs out knowing they were dangerous. Anyone could have gone in & added more to MJ. Murray is still the 1 that bought all that stuff.


lois   October 26th, 2011 10:55 am ET

These character witnesses should remember that Dr Murray ABANDONDED them and his clinic for $150,000 a month.


karen   October 26th, 2011 10:55 am ET

I am so tired of everyone calling Michael a drug addict. Remmeber the only drugs in his body was the ones Murray gave him. If he was using drugs it would have been in his body and found during the autopsy. The new media also puts a lot is untruths out. There is not doubt the the jury sees this.


michael dantona   October 26th, 2011 11:48 am ET

The nurse states that Michael said "No, doctors have told me it is safe- as long asI am monitored. " Who are these doctors that had told Michael that?


Michael   October 26th, 2011 11:49 am ET

I completely believe in 'patient responsibility' especially regarding a prescription of pills that have the potential of abuse. BUT in this case, Propofol is never handled by the patient. I was sympathetic toward Murray in the beginning, but do you hand a loaded gun to a toddler?
MJ survived and recovered from many things in his life, but while knocked out on Propofol and other meds MJ did not have the conscious ability to do anything to survive on his own.


Cheryl Quinones   October 26th, 2011 12:01 pm ET

Based on the Defense presented (or the lack of defense, in my opinon) I do believe Murray will be convicted. Everyday the Defense is not prepared and leaves themselves open to even further proof that Murray set the stage, provided the means and indeed killed MJ. Therefore, when Murray is convicted there will be a bases for an appeal based on poor representation on the Defense part in not being prepared thus setting in motion an appeal when Murray is convicted and there is no doubt Murray will go to jail where he belongs.


Beverly Epps   October 26th, 2011 12:05 pm ET

I'm not at all empressed with the character witnesses for Conrad Murray (especially Ms. Ruby). If Murray cared as much for them as they thought he did, he would have never left them to go work for Michael Jackson. Most major cities, like Houston, have large populations of elderly (predominantely Black) patients who believe whatever their doctors tell them. Conrad Murray, like many doctors who treat the elderly, know that these people are not intelligent enough to know whether they are being told a lie or the truth. In many cases, younger relatives have abandoned them and gone off to live their own lives. The doctors tell these patients whatever makes them happy because they know they will be paid by either Medicare or Medicade. It's a very sad situation I know, but it happens everyday. I look forward to Murray being convicted and loosing his license.


Jan Collins-McNeil, PhD, FNP, BC   October 26th, 2011 12:10 pm ET

Dear CNN,

Please don't refer to Ms. Lee as a "nurse." She is a Nurse Practitioner she has advanced education and preparation for advanced practice. She has earned her title and proper credentials. The public should be properly informed about "Nurse Practitioners " and their invaluable contributions to health care in this country.

I am especially proud of Ms. Lee for her expert testimony and documentation. She informed her patient of the significant dangers of using the drug Diprivan in the home without life saving equipment. Ms. Lee provided evidenced based information specific from the discipline of Nursing Science, Education and Practice.

Ms. Lee did exactly as the Institute of Medicine (2010) report recommends "That Nurses practice to the full extent of their educational preparation." Ms. Lee is to be commended for maintaining the standards of advanced practice nursing.


shirley lawrence   October 26th, 2011 12:24 pm ET

nurse says she had to go out of the room to get phone service. The room could have safety features. would prove mr. murray would have been out of the room for all those calls not the 2 min. pee brake.


shirley lawrence   October 26th, 2011 12:30 pm ET

nurse testified she had to go out of the room to get phone connection .also the doctor said he had to run out of the room to call for help there may be safety material in that room if so it is proof that mr. murray was out of the room for all that time on phone not just a 2 min pee brake.


linda   October 26th, 2011 12:41 pm ET

did dr murray tell his patients he was not board certified, tlc instead of boad certification what would you choose for your doc


Sheila   October 26th, 2011 12:44 pm ET

Ernest, it was more than a humongous boo-boo. He committed malpractice and involuntary manslaughter. He did not keep any patient records. What kind of doctor does not keep patient records?

He knew MJ was an addict, yet he ordered gallons and gallons of prophol, and proceeded to administer it to him every night for a month. On top of that, he did not have the proper monitoring equipment necessary and left all the drugs where MJ had access to them. Why would you leave powerful drugs accessible to a known drug addict?

It was a horrible accident (manslaughter) waiting to happen. Conrad Murry sold out for the $$ and acted like nothing more than a drug dealer.


Deanna   October 26th, 2011 12:44 pm ET

I've been totally captivated by the entire trial. I watched testimony from Ms. Lee yesterday and then today I was browsing past interviews on youtube when I came across an interview of Michael Jackson by Ed Bradley on 60 minutes. Discussing his treatment by law enforcement officers when arrested on the molestation charges, Michael says (and I quote) : "with the handcuffs, the way they tied them too tight behind my back. They put it in a certain position knowing it's going to affect my back. Now I can't move. IT KEEPS ME FROM SLEEPING AT NIGHT, I CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT'...
For me, it made Ms. Lee's testimony about him telling her he can't sleep at night almost come to life!!


Paul   October 26th, 2011 12:45 pm ET

Cheryl,
You're kidding. Rested? After a trial in 2005. When he was relax?. He was constantly under attack. This process, it was hell. He was acquitted. So what. It broke his heart.


Stacy   October 26th, 2011 12:49 pm ET

Dr. Murray's patient stated that he did not have to pay his insurance deductible when he was being treated by Dr.Murray. I guess Dr. Murray doesn't know that is Medicare and Insurance fraud. The physician has to charge the patient for the deductible it is against the law not to.


Betty   October 26th, 2011 1:07 pm ET

Dr. Murray went against himself when he treated Michael at home. He is acardialogist, so why is he putting himself in this position. If he is a good doctor he would have said NO>


MARVINA WHITE   October 26th, 2011 1:35 pm ET

I am a true Michael Jackson fan, but i feel soooo sorry for Dr. Conrad. He didn't mean for all of this to happen, but he was there and did things that are not permissable in the medical field. He got caught up in what he was doing at the time of Michael's death and can't turn back the hands of time........


Sandy   October 26th, 2011 1:42 pm ET

Dr Murray wept when best friend testified.
Dr Murray wept when Lady testified about memorial commitment to HIS father
Dr Murray ??? when testimony of Mrs. Jackson being told HER son had died.


Gretchen   October 26th, 2011 2:00 pm ET

Dr. Murray was probably over billing Medicare and Medicaid for his lower income patients. The State needs to investigate!


Gloria from Montreal Canada   October 26th, 2011 2:03 pm ET

I hope everyone remembers the bottom line of this trial. Dr, Murray may not be a criminal, we all have doctors , we need them , BUT,he was very negligent in his care of M.J. a DRUG PUSHER. On the streets it is illegal to be a drug pusher. How can it be ok for the Dr. to bring all that drugs into a private home.


Gloria from Montreal Canada   October 26th, 2011 2:11 pm ET

I call them Crocodile tears, Very at convenient times.How many lies did he tell so far?


Vicky Meyers   October 26th, 2011 2:29 pm ET

This situation is represents two conflicting areas of social justice. Dr. Murray did not show good judgment in his actions. But my issue is with the big picture. That big picture is the children of Michael Jackson. Please be sure that I in no way condone the actions of Dr. Murray but my biggest concern lies in how the children will experience this tradgey. Children are constantly aware of what is going on no matter how we try to protect them from the details. I feel the family is teaching the children to not be responsible for personal behavior. Remember, I do not condone Dr. Murray's behaviors but that is another matter. There is no single parent with drug or alcohol dependent behaviors that can give children the full time love and attention that is necessary to make that parent a "fantasic" parent. Michael Jackson had the luxury of being the Disneyland Parent secondary to a drug/alcohol substance issue. Please help the children understand that their father was a wonderful and loving parent with a terrible disease and not allow them to see that the "win" is more important than the facts. I loved the talents of Michael Jackson but am disappointed in how this tradgey has been portrayed (when it concerns the children).


Maggie   October 26th, 2011 2:32 pm ET

Character witnesses are worthless. Even Hitler had some friends and admirers right to the end.


Don   October 26th, 2011 3:17 pm ET

Dr. Murray of course had to have kept records but was probably adviced by his attorney's not to discuss or mention them. Why because if Dr Murray record MJ why in the world would he not keep medical records. I think today was the best day so far for Dr. Murray and even so the fact remains MJ is dead and it was in his presence.


karen   October 26th, 2011 3:20 pm ET

Well aparently he wasnt "the best doctor" because he didnt put the patient (MJ) first. As to Dr. Murray's "best friend" (patient) he OBVIOUSLY doesnt know ALL the things the "Dr." did and did not do while being with michael. They are soooo blind that they dont want to see that smh


Tom   October 26th, 2011 3:59 pm ET

Couldn't help but notice that each of the medical witnesses presented by the defense quoted from their RECORDS. Something Dr. Murray could not do. I was suprised the prosecutor didn't mention that at the time, although I'm sure it will come up in closing. I'm thinking the good doctor's main squeeze may need some other sugar daddy to maintain her "instrument" in the future.


Patti   October 26th, 2011 4:23 pm ET

It was during Ms. Lee's testimony, that I came to a point of reasonable doubt in this case. When she was having the conversation with MJ about propofol, if you listen carefully, it seems very possible that MJ was, at least in this context, seeking someone, not necessarily to actually administer the drug, but to simply monitor him....? When she tells him that no doctor will agree to give that drug to him in his home, his response was, " No", (as if to say that he was not asking for that), then states that he will be fine and just needs to be monitored) I don't know what happened to MJ that day but this placed reasonable doubt in my mind.


Sue from Calif.   October 26th, 2011 4:54 pm ET

It appears that we have a defendant who was a Dr. Jegkel and Mr. Hyde type of personality. He was caring to the poor working and retired people of Acres Homes in Houston but he was careless when dealing with a rich and famous patient, to wit: Michael Jackson. A psychiatrist on your show could explain this. Possible theory for this is that Dr. Murray only relates well to patients who are not rich nor famous. Perhaps due to his background as a child in Grenada living on his grandparents farm, thus identifying with people who are not wealthy.


Sue from Calif.   October 26th, 2011 5:03 pm ET

If Dr. Murray is convicted of involuntary manslaughter will that verdict be res judicata as to the California Medical Board action against him? If so, would his licensing status in the other states in which he is also licensed, to wit: Nevada and Texas also be affected by such a verdict?


mary mclaughlin   October 26th, 2011 5:30 pm ET

In late April ,Nurse Lee testified that Michael tried to assure her that if she got propofol for him he would be safe as long as he was monitored . But this was in April and dr Murray had already ordered propofol and by his own words he was giving it to Michael for 2 months , 60 nights in a row which ended June 25th. That doesn't make sense to me IF TRUE, because so much of what he says are lies , that means he took risks on Michael's life 60 nights in a row . Good Lord ,!


tom   October 26th, 2011 6:26 pm ET

How can a physician operating as a private contractor, outside the usual umbrella of a hospital/clinic, be held to the same level of standard of care as the experts who testified, seem to demand? It seems improbable to me that anyone providing care in a person's bedroom, in a private home, could be expected to be as proficient- especially in an
emergency situation. This is clearly a case of a bad outcome, as a result of alot of bad decisions. Very sad, but not very surprising.
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Lunie Jean   October 27th, 2011 9:13 am ET

Lee said when Jackson woke up after about three hours of sleep, she says he told her that propofol was the only thing that would get him sleep right away. If you never use, or try propofol: How do you know it will make you sleep?


Cricket Owen   October 27th, 2011 11:00 am ET

The character witness love Dr. Murray because he was practicing the kind of medicine he was qualified to practice. It is not about how many people he saved as a cardiologist, but who he killed with propfal. These character witnesses are all well and good but I'm sure you could find people to testify that Ted Bundy was also a great guy... The main problem with these defense wihnesses is that Murray did not treat them for Insomnia and also in their home administering propofol!


Don   October 27th, 2011 12:08 pm ET

I think that Dr. Murray did take care of these people for free, but when someone like MJ comes into the picture that's was a big meal ticket. And those doctors who testify for the prosecution would have done the same thing except they would have taken precaution.
Don


Arthur martinez   October 27th, 2011 12:50 pm ET

Why is it that Dr Murray could have these patents speaking of how good he is This has nothing to do with michiel"s Death As far as why he moved to that poor comunity of elderly people he hit a gold mine thay are all on medacare that always pays on time he needs this money to support all these wemon . And why is it that when Murray says that he only gave michiel only this small amount of Medication thay take it as fact like its impossible for hem to lie He only covered his own tracks by not taking Notes He should of hired a Nurse full time. I bet all this time he was giveing michael Propofol Half that time or more he was in his own bed room making Aii his phone calls to the Wemon , Dont forget this man didnot have no medical equipment and does not know how to perform CPR Another question I can under stand there was no sacurity cameras in his bed room But how about the hall ways and inside doors & kitchen this might show how long he was takeing the oxigen tanks out threw the kitchen and any thing else he might of removed befor he called for Blanket and called his sucurity And finely 911 this had to take a long time


dee   October 27th, 2011 7:42 pm ET

the more the witnesses speak the worst doctor murray looks and any other doctors that fail to provide a standard for their patients. greed is a ugly thing it makes people do things they may not normally do for the almighty dollar. its really sad.


D Thurston   October 28th, 2011 9:11 am ET

Dr. Murray is guilty. Even if MJ was an addict, the Dr. gave him the Propofol and that resulted in his death. Just look up John Belushe's death. Cathrine Smith addministerd the speed ball that killed him. The city of LA when't after her in Canada for 3 years to get her on trial for muder she ended up taking a plea deal when she knew she would lose for manslauter and served 15 months in the womens prison. after she got out she was deported back to Canada. Are they or arn't they the same thing. Both of them administerd a deadly drug to a person and they both died.{same thing} I think it is worse for Dr. Murray because he was being paid to keep MJ safe and he failed to do that.... If you put a stoned addict in jail that didn't know what they were doing. then Murray should get more jail time. Murray could have made MJ safe by just spending some money on medical equipment. It's my opinion that if MJ was told he needed to spend a 100000.00 just in case there were problems I think he would have. The one thing MJ wasn't was CHEAP.


Name:LOISY GRANT   October 28th, 2011 11:54 am ET

OK,please dont forget Michael Jackson is the victim.It seem to me that the defendant trying to put DR.MURRAY as the victim he is GUILTY not for killing MJ. but,forgivien him that dangerous medication.He shoud not be allowed to be a DR. anymore.


babychick2001   October 28th, 2011 8:59 pm ET

Propofol should not be EVER given outside an extremely monitored situation!! NO MATTER what. Dr.Miurray isn:t even board certified in any of his"chosen" specialities let alone anesthesiogy in a drug adicted patient! He had 150,00/month at his disposal-why not hire a nurse or others-ge tprope requipment to monitor his patient properly? He absolutely traded his "ethics" for a paycheck!


babychick2001   October 28th, 2011 9:05 pm ET

I've am a nurseof 32 yrs!!! Never have I heard of this drug beingused in a "bedroom"!! Ihave been using or been involved in propofol use for at least 15 years-this drug is great but soooo dangerous! This Md violated every medical and standard of care protocol !! PERIOD


babychick2001   October 28th, 2011 9:14 pm ET

Medicare should now investigate Dr. Murray for al the "FREE" procedures he provided all his "character" witnesses! That "kindness "is is against the law!! Many of those procedures are fully reimbursed by insurance and medicare but pocketed by "fabulous"physicians!! Medicare fraud is an aggregrious crime in and of itself!!


babychick2001   October 28th, 2011 9:31 pm ET

At leastthree times this week I have been asked if I'm going to give the drug that killed MJ!! I have to tell andexplain that propofol is safe when used properly and remind themI'mnot givingt this in their bedroom,every device to care for them in the event a critcal situation arises is available to them!


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