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March 25, 2011

Casey Anthony going back to court for more arguments over evidence

Posted: 01:54 PM ET

 

Orlando, FL Casey Anthony may be back in Court as soon as next Thursday morning.  She’ll be there for a full day next Friday and again on Saturday morning.  Those hearings are to continue arguments over motions from the defense.  They include:

  • Motion to Exclude Evidence of the Stain in the Car Trunk
  • Motion for Spoliation of Evidence to Exclude all References to the Smell of the Pontiac Sunfire
  • Motion to Preclude Phantom "Heart Sticker" Evidence

On Thursday, Judge Belvin Perry may also hear motions related to two witnesses the Defense added to their list last week.  Casey Anthony’s attorneys want Dr. Jeffrey Danzinger and William Weitz, Ph.D to testify about Casey’s state of mind and her consciousness of guilt.  That testimony may be via video conference.

Judge Perry has also set aside the week of April 18 to handle anything else that comes up before the murder trial begins jury selection on May 9.

This week, hearings have focused on whether the jury will get to hear certain evidence as they try to decide whether Casey Anthony killed her two-year-old daughter Caylee.  A research scientist from Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee testified about the smell from Casey Anthony’s car.  Arpad Vass is a forensic anthropologist who has published articles on human decomposition.  He says Orange County Sheriff’s Detective Yuri Melich asked him to try to determine the source of the odor in the car.

He says when he opened a sealed can containing air and carpet samples from Casey Anthony’s car trunk, the smell was so strong that it made him jump back about two feet.  “It was the smell of human decomposition,” Vass testified.  Vass analyzed the contents of the sealed can and says he identified 30 chemical compounds that are consistent with decomposition. Vass also said he found an unusually high level of chloroform compared to the other chemicals in the sample. “The actual amount of chloroform that is typically present in remains is about eight times greater than what you see in the control sample.  The trunk sample was about 10,000 times greater than what we'd typically see.”

He also said he found “a volatile fatty acid” in the carpet sample and in a paper towel sample from the trunk.  Vass says the acid is consistent with a key decomposition product of fat and muscle which appears very early in the decomposition process.

Casey Anthony’s defense team is trying to convince the Judge Perry that those conclusions should not be allowed at trial.  They say Vass’s data collection process could result in false positives or errors and his tests aren’t validated.   A pizza box and other trash were also found in the car.  And on cross-examination, Vass conceded that samples that were near trash “could confuse the issue.”  And that some of the compounds he found on the paper towel are consistent with meat products and marijuana as much as they are consistent with human decomposition. 

Vass says there are 478 chemical compounds associated with human decomposition.  He said he based his conclusion on the top 30 compounds but resisted saying how many of those 30 he found in the samples he analyzed.  Baez repeatedly questioned Vass saying the analysis only found four chemicals of decomposition that did not overlap with other items in the trunk.  Vass would not confirm that.

Things got heated during Vass’s testimony as Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton objected to defense attorney Jose Baez’s cross-examination of Vass several times.  He said many of Baez’s questions weren’t relevant to the Frye hearings where validity and general acceptance by a scientific community are discussed.   Ashton lashed out when Baez requested Vass’s bench notes about his use of the gas chromatograph. Ashton accused Baez of going back on his word and referenced a handwritten note from Baez a few weeks ago.

The note said, “We’re not going to question the validity of the gas chromatograph or the laser induced breakdown spectroscope, those two instruments as to their ability and their findings.  Now as to the interpretation of their findings and how they’re applied that is being challenged.”  Ashton said, “Now counsel [Baez] is trying to rescind this very clear document that shows that they were not challenging anything but the interpretation of the findings of the instrumental examinations and how they're applied to this case. It's crystal clear.”

Baez responded, with his voice quivering at times, “I agreed to that and I have several e-mails to Mr. Ashton where I explain to him the methodologies that we were challenging on this process… Now, I don't want to use the words coercion or forcing my hand or anything of the kind, but I think if we're going to limit somebody's cross examination on a specific witness on a critical point when I have specifically explained it time and time again to Mr. Ashton that we were questioning the methodologies.”

As he had on other relevance objections by Ashton, Judge Perry agreed, “What you're talking about doing is perfectly do-able when dealing with weight and credibility for the trial fact. What does that have to do with the Frye issue? The question is whether or not this is new or novel science. If the instrument of the science is good but the outcome is bad that has to do with issues other than Frye.”

Debating the Dog Evidence

Earlier Thursday, the lawyers completed arguments on a defense motion to keep canine search testimony and evidence out of the trial. Orange County Sheriff’s Office canine handler Jason Forgey, said his dog Gerus “alerted” to the scent of human remains at the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car.  He said the dog also alerted in her parents’ backyard on July 17, 2008.  Forgey testified that Gerus was a full service dog who had taken advanced courses in cadavers.

The defense, however, says those alerts could be false positives because human remains were never found in the locations where the dog signaled.  Forgey acknowledged there is no way for him to determine whether a false positive could be confirmed for the alerts in the Anthonys’ back yard since no remains were found.  However, he was unwilling to say the same for the car alert because he said he smelled the scent of human remains with his own nose.

The defense questioned the reliability of the dog alerts, suggesting they are a matter of handler interpretation.  The defense asked Forgey what the dog says to him when it alerts.  Forgey replied, “He doesn’t say anything to me.  I give him commands… it’s a one way verbal communication.”  Forgey explained he reads dogs by observing their “Stance, prance, hair, breathing.”  When the defense asked if the dog prances a different way and his hair sticks up, Forgey said, “His hair on his tail usually puffs up. Kind of like when you see dog goes into defense mode and its hackles come up.”

New Defense Motion Questions Judge

Thursday, the defense filed a motion requesting that Judge Perry reconsider the rulings he made last Friday or hold another hearing to not suppress statements Casey Anthony allegedly made to law enforcement officers, her parents, her brother, Maya Derkovic, Robyn Adams and Sylvia Hernandez. 

Defense attorney Cheney Mason, who was not in court Thursday, stated in the motion that there were several “factual inaccuracies” in the judge’s order, challenged the judge’s interpretations of legal standards, and accused the judge of having not looked at the “evidence at the hearing objectively” and instead displayed a “clear bias in explaining law enforcement conduct.”

 -Nancy Leung, In Session Field Producer

Filed under: Case Updates • Casey and Caylee Anthony


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no name   March 25th, 2011 2:10 pm ET

corrections
Why would a non-working Mother need a Nanny in the first place ?

How could a non-working mother pay the nanny/
and as we all should recall, this nanny had doubles of everything for Caylee anyway that is why a lot of Caylee's things were never removed from her home.
Nanny?
Come to the hearings NANNY....
somehow, I really doubt that will happen..
one who is an IMAGINARY friend..
well???


lotusjani   March 25th, 2011 2:27 pm ET

Baez is sure a bozo. He is trying to act so tough and savvy, what a laugh! and that baby killer trying to act like one more of the attorneys, is so laughable, nothing but theatrics! And bozo better do not challenge this judge, he is not stepping down, Jose! and you are making matters worse for yourself and the whole little group you are surrounded with. That old guy Cheney, go home! And the forensic expert woman attorney, she thinks she is the it in forsencis, I don't think Judge Perry will be unfair, but I can tell he does not like some of the defense attorneys, starting with bozo and Shirley Temple forensic attorney.


Luis   March 25th, 2011 3:11 pm ET

This case is a JOKE! everyone knows that Cassey kill Caley! if it was an accident or not only Cassey knows it!. Give her the death penalty! that's what she deserve!


Denali   March 25th, 2011 3:24 pm ET

Is it possible for the defense to drag this case out much longer??
It's a chop-job. An embarrassment to the system. Baez appears to be little more than a circus clown, chewing up time.


Pam   March 25th, 2011 4:01 pm ET

I lived in Texas during the Darlie Routier case and as a criminal ADA , I knew many of the .participants.I have always been interested in the forensic evidence and the testimony of the FBI agents called in to explain various elements of a case.
The Casey Anthony case reminds of the Darlie Routier case for one reason only, not the forensic evidence, not expert testimony from the Body Farm in Tennessee.
Both women had their 15 minutes of fame on t.v. Darlie Routier's silly string birthday party at her son's birthday. Wearing shorts, chewing gum, laughing, and the balloons. Everyone that didn't live in a cave saw it.
Now I live in Florida, I saw Casey Anthony partying hard with women, men, drinking, laughing, not a care in the world. This is what will result in her conviction. Child missing for a month!!! She bears all the signs of a sociopath.


daleee   March 25th, 2011 5:12 pm ET

Baez is so over his head and its almost criminal that he is the one questioning these experts. Most of his questions are so unbelievably stupid the Experts are unable to understand what he is asking and he does not get there answers. Thats it in a nutshell.
HE DOES NOT GET IT!!!


angie   March 25th, 2011 6:23 pm ET

well to begin i agree vinnie he is dead on.and as far as the parents they new what she was hiding all along.i think her brother had something to do with the body being moved from one place to another.i really think she did it don't care what a jury says cause who is not gonna report their child missing for that long? only if they had something to hide.


Leslie Tyrrell   March 25th, 2011 11:36 pm ET

Every time I see/hear Jose Baez I feel an overwhelming need to take a shower with chlorox and a brush! Not "Death qualified"? He's not traffic Court qualified,,,I wouldn't let him represent me in front of Judge Judy! Thank goodness for Cheney Mason...At least her conviction won't be Overturned for Ineffective assistance of Counsel.


pamela duncan   March 26th, 2011 3:02 am ET

wasting time and tax payers money on this nonsense about evidence on casey anthony,,,if all the evidence is to be throwed out,,why even try her,, just let her go,,save time and money,,, let her do it again/ and or let everybody else in the country who decides they dont want their child anymore kill them and throw them away like a piece of trash,,, caley may not get justice here on earth,,but she is getting it in heaven,,like all the other children that has been done wrong!!!!


Steffiee   March 26th, 2011 11:10 am ET

I was very glad to see Judge Perry denied a re-hearing of that motion to keep her statements out.


Nancy Owens   March 26th, 2011 1:27 pm ET

What is the point of having good methods of scientific discovery if defense attorneys are going to be able to motion to exclude most of it? Isn't the point of the trial to arrive at the truth of guilt or innocence? Evidence is evidence and should be presented as long as it is obtained legally.


suzan   March 27th, 2011 6:27 pm ET

aloha- good this jury will seeing case anthony car and the car trunk and i hope that this jury will get to see where caely anthony body was found at too. and yes this case is costing casey anthony a lot of money too for her defense and she does have so many lawyers just like o.j. simpson did and phil spector had so many lawyers during their sourthern,california murder trail.2- i hope that lee anthony is supporting his sister and going to court and sit right behind his sister just like his parents is doing for this long.3- this is a very sad case for a 2 year old little girl. 4- i hae 4 necies and 3 nephues and i as their auant never do this to my necies and nephues at all.5- i hope that all parents will learn this lesson especially karyon hormon 2 step parents and his 2 real parents here in oregon to what is happending to karyon hormon.


Nanjan   March 28th, 2011 9:50 am ET

Thus far Judge Perry is doing an excellent job making tough decisions on this case.

LET THE SCIENCE IN..

Casey Anthony has lied enough, she needs to be held accountable for the injustice to that beautiful little girl, Caylee Marie..


Nanjan   March 28th, 2011 10:02 am ET

The defense can cross examine all of the states expert witnesses and bring in their own experts. This should not be an issue as to whether or not some of the science comes into court, that is why we have a jury, to siff through all of the evidence provided to them.

Nothing I have heard so far appears to be voodoo. Stop wasting tax payers money and move on to the trial..


MomCarole   March 28th, 2011 10:55 am ET

Judge Perry? So far, so good. He appears to be fair and unbiased, and seems to possess thorough knowledge of rules of evidence.

I have followed this tragic case from the beginning, and have had great difficulty in refraining from forming an opinion as to the guilt or innocence of Casey Anthony based on all the information provided by media to date. I am looking forward to testimony and evidence presented at trial which should dispell any doubts as to innocence or guilt, and pray justice will be served.


Michael   March 28th, 2011 12:01 pm ET

If these hearings are any indication of what the trial will be like get ready for a 3 ring circus. Sadly, Casey killed her own daughter because she was angry with her mom and did it in a fit of rage to spite her mom. Looks like it worked.


Michael   March 28th, 2011 12:13 pm ET

Casey Anthony is a Chameleon. She takes on whatever role SHE perceives is appropriate at the moment. The problem is, no one has seen the real Casey yet because she has always been role-playing one thing or another. Now she is playing paralegal as she sits at the defense table. I am not sure anyone will ever see the real Casey – ever, because she knows no other way of living except to play roles. She would have made a phenomenal actress.


ginae   March 28th, 2011 12:18 pm ET

They are trying everything in their power to get this girl off. She did it, Everyone knows she did it. Quit wasting the taxpayers money and get this over with.! Nuff said.


Kate   March 28th, 2011 12:36 pm ET

Absolutely right Pamela D!! I agree totally with your post. This case will set an example. If all the evidence is thrown out and she walks, the FL justice system will be made a fool out of. Anyone here that decides children are a burden and a hindrance to their party life can just toss their children like trash. I say if she walks perhaps the members of the defense won't mind giving her a job babysitting their children. If Lee and Mallory decide to have a child wonder if they would leave it alone with her.


John M.   March 28th, 2011 12:42 pm ET

I agree that these Hearings on the admissability of the scientific evidence are a waste of valuable time and taxpayer money. However, as Jean pointed out, under the US Supreme Court decision in the Frye case, the defense has a legal right to contest whether certain scientific evidence may be heard by the jury at trial. The theory on Frye is to weed out junk science. However, in this case it is clear that Casey's attorneys are hoping for a Hail Mary as the forensic evidence clearly appears to be valid and admissable at trial. Should be a lay up for Judge Perry.


Sadie   March 28th, 2011 12:47 pm ET

I think everything that the state has against anthoney should be let in , even tho with or without it she is going to either spend her life in jail or go to death, beaz will never get her off, he's not smart enough, after all this is first real case so he has to pretend he knows something, we all know he don't have a brain, if he was smart, he wouldn't be quetioning theese experts that has alot more schooling and training then beaz will ever have in his whole life, beaz doesn't have a clue of what the heck is going on in front of him the judge is very smart and he will keep all this evidence in for the trial, beaz is wasteing everyones time, knock it off beaz stop crying about everything your client is very guilty GET OVER IT BEAZ!!!!!! your going to lose, you don't have a case, so stop wasting our time and money!!!!!!!


dano   March 28th, 2011 1:20 pm ET

Who doesn't keep dead squirrels and rotting garbage in the trunk of their car in the hot summer time in Florida?? I should say who does keep those items in their car in the hot summer time in Florida?? I guess Casey Anthony. LOL


Linda Holm   March 28th, 2011 1:20 pm ET

This will definitely be a thrown out verdict due to ineffective counsel. Jose is being nodged on the arm when to object, whispered what to say, etc. and you can tell he hasn't a clue what the experts are telling him. He is out of his league. All he is good for are to make sarcastic comments or due word bashing back and forth with the prosecution attorneys. I have also noticed his face when Casey walks into the court. There is something going on there and I think this case has become personal for Jose. He needs to step down and let someone else defend the woman I think he is in love with.


Nancy   March 28th, 2011 2:07 pm ET

I find it amusing that Baez is trying to suggest the Scientist is there for potential financial gain. It's amusing considering that everyone involved who's doing a job, defense counsel included, gains financially. That's the definition of work. Unless the defense team members have signed something promising not to do interviews, write books, articles, or anything other activity as a result of or because of their involvement in this trial then they too will gain financially. We all know no one would know who the heck Jose Baez is if he did not manage to keep himself on this case despite his inexperience. I'd say he had something to gain to by doing so. Don't accuse someone else of doing what you did. Gimme a break.


debra B.   March 28th, 2011 2:11 pm ET

I would like to know why a Veternarian has not been called by the prosecution since a dogs sensory perception is XXXXtimes that of a human. Why could not the vet. be called to verify as an expert the sensory perception of a dog and the ability is captalized by Law enforcement and other agencies?


tvfan   March 28th, 2011 2:28 pm ET

I believe NONE of the statements, computer searches, evidence, letters, photos and testimony from all that has been given from day one should be excluded. I wonder exactly how many murder trials Baez has been counsel to. Since this is a high profile case, I think he's looking to cash in. They really should just give up and life without parole sentence or death to CA. How long does this trial have to continue? I hope that CA never gets released. If someone does find her not guilty, I hope for her sake no one ever becomes involved with her because if she were to have another child they may have the same fate as little Caylee! As I recall, the mother from NC or SC has already been convicted. Why does this circus of a trial have to continue before Caylee gets JUSTICE?


mimmie sue   March 28th, 2011 2:55 pm ET

What is most disturbing is that Caylee Marie Anthony is “Evidence.”


Dee   March 28th, 2011 3:03 pm ET

Baez thinks he is the lead of "Celebrity Defense Dream Teams", sorry Baez , your are a clown! Notice how many times Baez brings up the phrase "High Profile Case", he really thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Can't wait to see how many more times Judge Perry has to take him down a few notches! Baez just wants to be a Celebrity.....sorry Baez, but you should be in California with Judge Ito, and with jurors that could care less about JUSTICE!


Dee   March 28th, 2011 3:08 pm ET

Some of this science evidence may not come in, however, in this case, you almost don't need any of it, because Casey will never overcome the fact that she waited 31 days to report Caylee missing and she had to be force to do it then by Cindy!


Dee   March 28th, 2011 3:22 pm ET

I know that we have to have Defense Attorneys, however, I have a very hard time trusting them sometimes. This trust issue stems from they want everyone in the courtroom to look at the Red Herring or any crazy theory they may have and at the same time want everyone to totally overlook the MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE that the Prosecution has presented! I am growing real tired of the RUSH TO JUDGEMENT excuse or all Police are interested in convicting the wrong person of a murder, so therefore they must have planted the evidence! I know there are a few bad cops, but they use this excuse way too often, like every murder case you hear of anymore! Casey's actions, and non actions, her lying, and all of her desire to be free to party and at the same time anger at her parents for their constant concern on whether or not Casey was being a "GOOD MOM" to Caylee, is what is going to prove she is a Murderer!


Debbie   March 28th, 2011 3:27 pm ET

Had the media not turned this case into a frenzy this would have been over long ago. But instead lots of taxpayer money is being wasted arguing over petty details. Once this selfish brat is convicted, and justice served, precious little Caylee will finally rest in peace. And, Baez can go back to representing people in traffic court.


sam   March 28th, 2011 3:53 pm ET

for the first 3 months, I tired my darnest to find another reason why Casey di dnot kill her baby. I tried to give her the Benf. of the doubt Some bloggers thougth I was crazy but I wanted to be fair, but There no is no doubt in my mind that she is nothing but 110 percent Gulty.

I think that it is goona be so bad for Roy. I don't care why he was in to finding her, money or what, don't care what kind of Husband he was. Don't care. This has nothing to do with him. He is the reason why some people I know will.\/would not report things. You call in and report-then you life is in all hell.. Jayne V. Does not help at all.
He found the remains, If it was for MONEY-=–Good-- If it was not for Roy, I think the baga may have been found, but Lord knows when and where, It floated around the water for awhile. Poor Little Child.


debbie   March 28th, 2011 6:01 pm ET

I am sorry but Casey Anthony"s attorney is way over he's head, the man from day one has no clue as to what he is doing. Whether she is innocent or not she need a new lawyer.


Jean Caruthers   March 29th, 2011 7:54 am ET

What's up with Casey sitting at court trying to look like she's part of the legal team? Going through files, making notes, trying to look like she's working for Baez????? Has she finally completely flipped her cookie? She should be acting like she actually cared about her baby girl. I hope she does get the death penalty.


DC   March 29th, 2011 12:59 pm ET

I hope that when this finally goes to trial, the jury will be able to see through all of the defense's smoke screens. Since they can't point a finger at Zenaida Gonzolas, I worry that they will try to turn this case around to point to Roy, the guy who found Cayley- hope the jury can see through this too.


deborah   March 29th, 2011 2:09 pm ET

CA does not show me any emotion that her baby is dead. A child is dead , her daughter no less and CA laughs and primps and acts like no big deal.What's wrong with her? It's all about her, and how she looks and if her shirt is pulled down and her hair is fixed. The way she looked up from her "paperwork" when the Dr. from Tenn say he jumped back when he opened the can of evidence. A picture is worth a thousand words. She did it, no question.


Christy   March 29th, 2011 3:27 pm ET

Even though there is no way Casey can ever testify (the D.A. would tear her apart) you know testimony will come in showing Casey was not working, had not had a job in a long time, and yet she claimed to have a "nanny" caring for her child. Don't you think the jury will wonder how she could afford a nanny? And why would she need a nanny if she wasn't working? Obviously, there was no nanny, just another lie.
I would guess even if all the forensic evidence is tossed, her lies will be enough to do her in.


Trish   March 29th, 2011 3:55 pm ET

Before this past week, I hadn't really followed the Casey Anthony case very much, but I got drawn in to the Fry hearing because I was surprised by the types of evidence the prosecution was fighting ot introduce. For example, the odor from the car, the behavior of the so-called cadaver dog, & the scientist unwilling to share his raw data [the professional scientists I know would be shocked to hear that a scientist thinks he gets to decide which elements of the data are relevant for understanding his conclusions & replicating the experiment, if necessary].

If the car sat locked up in a parking lot & the impound for like 11 days, that means there couldn't have been a body in there for at least that long. Odors dissipate over time. If the trunk had so much of an odor that humans could detect it, where are the stains, tissue or fluids that odor is coming from? If the odor was so strong a scientist who spent his career dealing with dead bodies was knocked back, that smell had to me coming off something that should be decteable by luminol, microscope or alternate light source.

Using a dog whose handler is aware of where someone things a body was opens the dog& handler to the Clever Hans effect – where the dog is responding to sublte, unconscious cues from the behavior of the handler. As the guest said on In Session the other day, the dog can't tell us whethere it's responding to a decomposing body, a steak or a doggie treat. I was also shocked there' no national standards & the dogs are privately trained, and never have to be recertified.

As for the chlorine-based chemical that tested higher thant he scientist had ever seen – that's good reason for a re-test, to make sure the equipment is properly callibrated.


Trial Watcher   March 29th, 2011 4:10 pm ET

George, Cindy and Lee had it right when the case was still a missing child case. They each suspected that Casey was guilty of having harmed her daughter. It was only after consulting with defense attorneys and learning that Casey faced the death penalty that the Anthony family adopted the "not guilty" posture. Up until then, they drew their conclusions based on who they knew Casey to be. Then they shifted into high gear denial, another Anthony family trait. Now they are angrily lashing out at anyone who dares to see Casey as responsible for Caylee's death; a proposition they themselves embraced when the events were still unfolding. The anger comes from knowing nobody accepts their denial of Casey's responsibility.

Baez, like the Anthony parents, resorts to sarcasm and sniping when he is backed against the wall. He and his client are victims of the prosection and the judge. What a perfect pairing of client and attorney!

When one is capable and knowledgeable personal attacks on an adversary are not necessary. That is a ploy used when intellectual argument is lacking. It is the stuff of squabbling children on playgrounds who have not matured intellectually and emotionally. Baez seems to not only lack such maturity but also seems confused about the law; a dangerous mix in a defense attorney whose client faces death. Top that off with his ego and the recipe for failure is assured.


DeeDee   March 29th, 2011 8:41 pm ET

I think the Judge Rocks...I can't wait for the trial so Casey Anthony can be brought to justice!! I think Casey was drugging Caylee so she could go party! Zanny the Nanny? Either way she killed her own daughter. I know if my young, defenseless, and precious daughter was missing for fifteen minutes I would be flipping out....and everyone else that I know would be too!! Thirty one days...OMG, REALLY! If my child killed their child accident or no for any reason...I would not protect them!! What kind of messed up family is this? As far as I am concerned I think they are all involved at some level...maybe the shame will bring the truth out or it will kill them!! I guess it just depends on how they wanna go out!!! Just for the record..I cherish my children above all!! What about Caylee? This question is for the Anthony's family...Did she ever count?


Lillian   March 29th, 2011 10:54 pm ET

DC, the defense is going to point the finger at anybody they can. I'm only glad I wasn't anywhere near Florida when all of this went down!


Mebrust   March 29th, 2011 11:44 pm ET

At what point is the trying to keep all the evidence out going to stop. I thought that she said once we went to trial we would hear what really happened. Sounds like there is no defense no real story, just trying to get evidence excluded. If there was evidence to prove she was not guilty and that there was someone else, then we would know by now.


Trial Watcher   March 30th, 2011 1:50 pm ET

Casey's computer showed searches for Zenaida Gonzales. If they occurred before June 15, the last date Caylee was known to be alive, it looks like Casey premediated the events and the coverup. If the computer searches occurred after June 15, it looks as though Casey was formulating the coverup. "Zanny the nanny" probably started out as a tongue-in-cheek reference to using Xanax, whose street moniker is Zanny, to put Caylee to "sleep" when Casey wanted to party. Zanny was a substitute babysitter. Once Casey realized she may have used the name/word around her family and friends, she decided to create the person as a kidnapper to explain Caylee's absence. Casey went too far in trying to make Zanny real and got tripped up in her lies.


mjwarren   March 30th, 2011 2:38 pm ET

please due a dna on george Anthony to rule in or out that he is the father of his daughter's, casey anthony's, child caylee. why try to commit suicide? why so secretive about the father? I believe that caylee's daughter is also her sister...americas big secret over many generations as also from creation...the anthony family are all liars and apparently believe they are above all others. how ironic that God was brought in soon for comfort and then the clergy was no longer needed. Where was there commitment to a church before this incident? there was a news clip of G.A. slipping up stating that the smell in the car was not that of his "daughter" he meant to say grand-daughter. then to review you will see that the statement was altered possible to set chase on that evedence. G.A. you are the father!


Trish   March 30th, 2011 2:39 pm ET

I find the Zanny- Xanax idea unlikely. Children's cold remedies, in cherry flavor, are readily available OTC – why waste a harder-to-acquire Xanax on a child if the purpose is to get her to sleep & do something else?


Sandy   March 30th, 2011 3:45 pm ET

This trial is a 3 ring circus! With Bozo Baez as the ring leader. I have watched all the frye hearings and this guy is a mess! He doesn't know what he is doing and it is obvious. He is rude and arrogant and an idiot. wow I don't see how he can challenge the judge as he is. but hey it speaks to his ignorance.Casey Anthony will get life or the death penalty. all the evidence point to her.no one else. Not Mr Kronk or her ex boyfriends or her Father as will no doubt be the next target. Casey and Bozo smirking and smiling and touching one another will not fair well with a jury. I hope Judge Perry nails Bozo for touching her,,He has been tolod twice to not touch her by jail guards..something sleazy goin on there and it is disgusting!


DouglsP   March 30th, 2011 5:37 pm ET

Hi Trial Watcher, I think your assessment of Mr. Beaz is correct. He does not seem to be an expert in law despite his training, just probably lack of experience. He is along the same lines as a Sara Palin, full of herself but not particulary bright. Which makes them look painfully clownish when it comes to substance in thier chosen professions.


CharlieB   March 30th, 2011 6:37 pm ET

I agree with Mimmie it is very sad that little Caylee is part of the evidence in this trial. I just prey the Judge and DA keep up the good work with no mistakes that could let that animal out or give it a retrial. 31 days without reporting the girl missing sorry something wrong here, oh thats right too busy partying to worry about the child.


deborah   March 31st, 2011 2:23 am ET

I truly believe this was an accident. Casey Anthony wanted to live the party girl life, but had problem doing so, because she had a child in her way. I believe she mistakenly gave her to much of the drug to put her to sleep, so she could party that night. What I don't understand is why she doesn't just tell the truth. The truth will bring her peace. How could a person sit their and not say anything concerning her daugther death. What kind of person is she. By not speaking up, she is allowing people to assume, what happen and this will get her the death penalty.


candace   March 31st, 2011 6:47 am ET

Casey acts like part of her team with her writing on the paper and re-arranging them..is that an act of "diminished " mental capacities, to show that she thinks she is a legal team person?
From the beginning I believed she did harm to her child. If the baby was missing for 30min a normal distraught person would be making calls and LOOKING.
I am not sure about the comments re: George or Lee being the father of Kaylee..but at this point anything is possible.....
The touchy /feely actions in court are disgusting as well...why does the judge not address the improper behavior?
Finally the parents actions and display of disrespect in court are disturbing and it is just one more thing the judge should put a stop to


debra bolger   March 31st, 2011 1:43 pm ET

I agree with Candace. Casey appears to be a lawyer/celebrity, where in reality she should be appeaing in her orange jumpsuit.
I am sick of this trial as I have followed it for years on Nancy Grace, and cant believe that she has not been tried yet. We all know that she is guilty.


Phyllis   March 31st, 2011 5:08 pm ET

Too bad Caylee didn't get the same care and protection that her mother is getting.

Reality break to all: Caylee is the victim, not Casey!


Pattianne   March 31st, 2011 5:17 pm ET

THE DUCT TAPE WITH THE SWEET LTTLE HEART STUCK ON IT

I am hoping against hope that the other piece of the duct tape was found in Casey Anthony's drawer - With the exact tearing marks to match the mouth tape on that little Angel who now lives in heaven. And fingerprints to boot.


DEBBIE   March 31st, 2011 5:18 pm ET

My opinion, Baez is trying to get all these things thrown out and it isnt working. when it gets closer to her court date they are going to try and work out a deal for a lesser sentence or an insanity defense.


Pattianne   March 31st, 2011 5:23 pm ET

Please Judge Perry - Don't let this be an OJ Simpson case. We think you are doing an admirable and fully fair job. Keep up the good work. The day for letting lawyers snow judges is over.


alumette   April 1st, 2011 12:35 pm ET

Is there an end to this ridiculous case? the naive defense is simply trying to eliminate all evidence. HELLO! What is with that? It is one thing to defend your client but another to destroy evidence and pretend they are innocent. What an expensive joke on the community.


Michael   April 1st, 2011 1:31 pm ET

Geez! Don't you listen Vinnie Politan!? Jean just told you the chloroform is contained on the dryer sheets. Yet you continue to broadcast that it is found in the spray Frebreeze only further propogating inaccurate information regarding this case.


cregis   April 1st, 2011 5:06 pm ET

I didn't know Febreeze came in a can as Cindy Anthony said. Mine is in a plastic bottle. That woman has no credibility. I hope she does testify as her testimony will only help the prosecution. The Tru TV talking head, Christy something said Casey mouthed "I love you" when Cindy got off the stand. I thought she said "Thank You. ' Of course I thought Thank you for lying. Did anybody mention smelling Febreeze.


nancy p*   April 1st, 2011 6:07 pm ET

actually chloroform is a form of anesthetic,, i had it when i was a little girl you never ever forget that smell,, it has another name ,, ether* febreeze does not contain chloroform ,, i have febreeze in my closet , also i looked at ingredients in dryer sheets,, i didnt find that as well,,i wonder where the defense is going with this,,,,,

chloroform knocks you out,, its not fragrant at at all, its a distinctive odor that you cannot forget,,,, as a child i had it to knock me out during surgery with my kidney infections and diagnoses,,,,,also with culposcopy,,,, so i dont know how they can say ether* aka chloroform is in anything remotely fragrant,,, i dont get it


Shannon   April 1st, 2011 6:41 pm ET

I have been watching the trial coverage and I think Jose Baez is making a mockery of the system....and deliberately. it doesn't matter how effective he will be in getting expert evidence thrown out of the trial, she will still be convicted. They cannot change or hide her actions for the 31 days her daughter was "missing" or the lies she told to the police in the ensuing days. This is what will convict that disgusting despicable monster!


Shannon   April 1st, 2011 6:44 pm ET

And I want to add to Miss Casey "This isn't about YOU, honey. This is ALL about little Caylee!" Go cry your fake little tears to your cellmates.


Lucinda   April 2nd, 2011 1:26 am ET

I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I say Casey acting like a paralegal. Two things I had not heard until reading the comments here is the inapropriate court room behavior between Baez and Casey. The possibility that GEORGE Anthony is Caylee's father. Whew, that throws a different light on everything.. What I find irratating is the Casey smirk, like the cat that swallowed the canary...like a secret she'll never tell.....WE ALL KNOW YOU DID IT!!


Superbird   April 4th, 2011 3:45 am ET

Sick of the continuing saga. It will probably turn out that she will get time served and be released–which is the really sad part. That poor little girl was only two years old–and she wanted to live. Period. After all this time I would certainly hope the judge and prosecutor do not lose site of that fact. That would be a tradgedy.


Lulu   April 4th, 2011 1:57 pm ET

Casey Anthony is a self-absorbed narcissist. She sits at the table in court making notes – she TRULY believes she is one of the lawyers. She is repugnant. I believe she mouthed, "thank you" to her despicable mother. Her parents created a monster. Will the prosecution ask why she needed a nanny when she wasn't even working? I wouldn't be surprised if she did testify, even against her lawyers advice. She is so narcissistic that she thinks she can fool everyone. And... could she perahaps wear a tighter sweater?? I hope she rots in hell.


Linda   April 6th, 2011 10:39 am ET

Well, I now am listening to the defense questioning the scientist. Who is this wirey blond headed woman? They are changing lawyers like I change underwear. There Casey sits checking her clothes, hair and, if she happens to shed a tear, making sure the mascara didn't run, constantly wiping her under eyes. I think the only reason she cried when her mom took the stand was because Caylee died because of the fight her and her mom had. She was determined to party without her mother's help to watch Caylee. She wanted to show her she didn't need her. God I wish they could find the one who sold Casey the xanax that she gave Caylee. Maybe one of the guys she was with did, or girls. If they did come forward, they would be charged with murder as well. Jose needs to relinquish his duties and just hold her hand. He would be better holding the mirror so she can check her looks than defending her.


Kellie Oppenlander   April 7th, 2011 10:55 am ET

I have been watching these proceeding for the last week or so and I to agree with other viewers that Casey shows no emotion at all. All she seems to do is write on that pad. True, she could be writing down questions for her lawyer to ask but that is highly doubtful considering she seems to be a "poor me" kind of person. Jose does not appear to know what he is doing, he has a very noticable stammer. Guess that's what happens when you know your client is guilty! Casey is not even paying attention to what is going on around her, with all the money that is going to be spent on her behalf she could at least show some interest!!


Nancy   April 7th, 2011 11:17 am ET

I can't believe that I just heard that the judge found Casey Anthony to be indigent and the Taxpayers of Florida will help fund her defense. It boggles the mind to think that we the taxpayers have to pay for her high priced attorney fees because she can't afford it. Whatever happened to "Public Defenders" for the indigent???????? UNBELIEVABLE!!!


Jackie Zeagler   April 8th, 2011 10:12 am ET

Watching Jose with Casey Anthony..he looks like a boy with a crush. I wonder just how alone they have been together workin on this case. In his interview on In Session with Christy, Jose stressed how wonderful a mother Casey Anthony was..WAS she, really? She failed to report Caylee missing for 31 days, Jose. Casey Anthony is not mother of the year, paralegal, a colleague, or your lover, Jose... she is on trial for her life. Please get out a law book and brush up on law and quit being touchy/feely / googly eyed with the defendant of a capital murder case, you idiot!


Ray Miller   April 8th, 2011 12:29 pm ET

I object to the credit that Casey get's for being sooo involved in the courtroom with looking in books and writing things down, why didn't she work so hard at finding her "missing child"..I think she gave her child Zanex to put her to sleep so that she could party but overdosed her by accident, non the less in my opion she is guilty of some lesser charger of murder.


trystyn chase   April 8th, 2011 11:32 pm ET

I agree that evidence is evidence, death penalty trial or not. And Casey learned to lie from her parents. They lie so much they don't know what the truth is. They call the police and tell them about the dead body smell, spray Frabreeze to cover the smell and then later say it was rotten pizza with maggots all over it. Didn't the parents notice the pizza before calling the cops or at least before telling the story about the smell in the car. I realize that parents will stick by their child, but she killed their grandchild. She doesn't even act like anything bothers her in court. She is too busy playing with her hair and pulling on her sleeves like a teenager. And what is she writing all the time, a tell all book!!!


DES   April 9th, 2011 12:37 am ET

If it was an accident why would you duct tape her mouth and nose? Why lie, disappear for 31 days and hide her body? Why blame someone that does not even exsist? An accident is just that.

Maybe she knew her free ride would be over if Caylee was not around. Casey is covering up her actions and she will never tell the truth.

She is the one that dealt this hand, and now with her arrogance she will play it to the death. She was offered a deal, she refused. She thinks she is smarter than everyone else. She will find out that is not true when a jury is not 6 feet away from her and watches her. Her fake tears, her anger, her uncaring attitude when they are talking about her dead baby. Then her flirting with her attorney. It will be all the jury needs for a guilty verdict. She will never need to take the stand and tell her side of the story. Her actions will say it all. She will be toast.


Dee   April 9th, 2011 7:30 pm ET

Trish, with all due respect, by the time she had parked the car at the gas station or where ever it was, she had already dumped the body! Yes, that kind of smell doesn't go away for a very long time. I know because at the age of 15, we had to go to my friend's aunts' home after she had died and not been found for at least 2 weeks and then it was a few more weeks before we got to NY to go to her home and believe me that smell was so unique and so overwhelming that even now I remember that smell. Never in all of my life have I ever come across anything even remotely similar! The reason why no body fluids, is because there is testimony that poor little Caylee was double bagged in trash bags and I believe they also said wrapped in a blanket inside the trash bags.....so no Luminol, microscopes, and alternate light sources wouldn't be of much help.


Dee   April 9th, 2011 7:38 pm ET

Who would of thunk it........Febreeze and dryer sheets equal chlorform?????


Nana   April 13th, 2011 11:40 am ET

Indigent = Dream Team at taxpayers expense??? Crazy!
I only hope that if any of the "crazy anthony" family members get to cash in on poor precious Caylees's death that the money will go to reimburse the state of Florida for this trial. Also, our laws need to be changed so that people like that Anthony family cannot profit from selling their stories, etc. because that makes poor Caylee a victim all over again! RIP little Caylee.


Shari   April 15th, 2011 1:31 pm ET

I am wondering the babysitter/nanny had to take a lie dector test , did Casey have to take one also? and if so what were the results of it?


toomuchdoubt   April 15th, 2011 1:51 pm ET

Why didnt LE ask or pressure George Anthony more about why he did not call police when he picked up that car after admitting smelling death? Also, he admitted seeing Casey on June 24th WITHOUT CAYLEE, he never was concerned about his granddaughter? Sorry, but this is the worst investigation i've ever seen. George's statements and FBI interviews showed many inconsistencies, so they arrest KC for lying and not her father who lied more???? This girl is innocent and I feel was placed in the middle of a coverup that already began with someone within that Anthony home. AFter all, why did George call KC's cell phone the morning of July 16th? WAs Caylee left at the home? Did KC arrive home to something horrific? It is quite obvious that this entire family is involved in some way due to the fact that NONE of THEM cared about Caylee for an entire month? Was a cover up already in place to where she could not back out?


toomuchdoubt   April 15th, 2011 1:53 pm ET

Remember, George was asked to take a polygraph and he refused. That speaks loud and clear!


Pam in MO   April 15th, 2011 4:41 pm ET

You have to be kidding me!! Jose Baez is such a creep and seems to be in the "Twilight Zone". He really wants to stop the cameras and hush the reporters?? Give us a break! He needs to go back to Cuba!


nancy p*   April 15th, 2011 5:28 pm ET

also george refused to give his dna also,, lee was court ordered to do so,, lee told his father not to give his dna,,,,,,,,,,
so again i say,, george is the father of caylee,,,,, why is he staying away from court and where has lee been,, i for one do not feel sorry for cindy and george or lee,,, all of them had a hand in this tragedy,,,,
to the authorities,, take caseys , georges,, and lees dna again,,,, run it again,,,,,,,,, thats the motive people,, why caylee had to die,, cindy knew covered it up ,,,,,, why did she want caylee to call her mommy. all the men that casey said was the father turned out not to be true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, if all the alleals in the dna match with george and casey and caylee and no other dna meaning the true father,, stands to reason that george is the father,,,,, his guilt is eating him alive,,,,,,

what a sad case this is,,, a litle girl born into this dysfunctional sick and twisted family,,,,, lee is wierd too the way he acts towards casey, and george calling casey gorgeous and shes the boss,, just my opinion ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, cant wait for this case to begin,, i say release all information and whats ever kept sealed,,, and georges suicide letter,


Bill Ousley   April 17th, 2011 10:38 am ET

I'm sick of watching Casey walk into the court as though she's some sort of celebrity. Always looking down at her breast, playing with her hair and writing notes...........(I'd love to read them – just to check her spelling). And as far as Baez goes, what a joke!! He's objecting to every damn thing the prosecutors bring in.........not one thing does he accept without objections!! The death penalty in this case is most deserving, one lie after another from the beginning. And Baez knows his 'client' is lieing each time she opens her mouth. Judge Perry is doing a great job and I'm sure that he'll have total control over his court during the trial.


Kath   April 18th, 2011 7:23 am ET

Why is everyone referring to Jose B. as part of a DREAM TEAM??


Marilyn   April 18th, 2011 11:04 am ET

Look at Baez..I think he has a thing for his client. Also..what is she constantly writing about? Her memoirs?? Now there's a joke.


Floyd   April 18th, 2011 1:39 pm ET

Baez is about as smart as a chicken and everybody knows the size of their heads,,, the only thing he knows how to do is delay,, delay but its not working so well this time and it looks like he is about to cry,, It does look like he has a thing for this baby killer,, at one time I was sorry for her parents but not anymore,,, now they are going to do anything to get this killer off,,


Floyd   April 18th, 2011 1:42 pm ET

I think she is playing tic tac toe or doing crossword puzzles


toomuchdoubt   April 18th, 2011 9:26 pm ET

NancyP,

There is just too much LE overlooked concerning paternity and George Anthony's bizarre behaviors and past etc. WHY>>>???? Again, that should've been the first thing they looked at, where is the father? Good investigation work would find that answer. The paternity probably has a lot to do with this case for sure. It's quite clear,,,MOO.


Tnmom   April 20th, 2011 2:22 pm ET

I think Judge Perry is doing a great job. Baez doesn't want any evidence to be presented at trial! Casey's partying while her daughter is missing has a lot to do with this case. Who would party when their daughter is missing? I agree. The whole Anthony family is bizarre. Many family secrets I think.


Sands   April 20th, 2011 5:53 pm ET

I like many others are curious as to who the father is?

Doesn't this poor little murdered baby have a father?

How can this anomious father stand in the background and not come forth? How can Casey sit there and not reveal? Considering her past boyfriends and they do seem to be the average law abiding citizen/s why is it such a mystery as to who this baby's father was? Considering that Casey did seem to play in different types of haunts maybe it was just a random sexual encounter for her?

Why hasn't/didn't she ask for a speedy trial? This case just continues to linger and linger. My God, Simpson was even on top of things and didn't want to spend years in jail awaiting trial! What is her excuse for such delay. I wouldn't want to sit in jail if I were so innocent!!!

Once again, "Why haven't charges been filed against George & Cindy for perjury on the stand?

Baez, stop boring the hell out of this courtroom......

Sands
04/20/11


Jessica   April 21st, 2011 11:32 am ET

I saw a "snip it" of Ryan Smith's interview with Jose Baez. The defense just doesn't get it. The case is not about Casey, who failed to notify police that her 2 year old daughter was missing for 31 days. The case is about sweet Caley Anthony. All the pictures of her and the best one was the video showing her singing, "You Are My Sunshine" just days before she was missing. For Baez to say that the popularity of the case is because Casey is white, nice looking and young is absurd.


Christy   April 25th, 2011 5:38 pm ET

The trial is almost here, or is it? Wouldn't it be something if after all the pre-trial hearings, the many thousands of dollars that have been spent on this case, all the lawyers that have come and gone, the anticipation of what is to come in the trial – after all of this – if the state offers Casey a deal that she can't refuse and she decides to plead guilty to a lesser charge??? It could happen.


nancy p*   April 25th, 2011 6:41 pm ET

and does anyone ever notice how george anthony looks down on interviews thats telling in itself,, one that doesnt look in the eyes of people talking to him says guilt all over,,, the answer to who caylees dad will finally be told at trial i believe that,,,,, george is the father,,, cindy anthony said on greta van sustren show,, that caylees dad,, WILL NEVER BE NAMED,,makes you wonder,, and then there were reports that said the father signed his rights over,, when did that happen?? george and cindy made that up ,,, even lets say that is true wouldnt the father be in court listening to all this information and want justice for his daughter,,,,,,,,,

george is the father of caylee ,, if anyone saw that 48 hours special when george cindy and caylee were sitting on the couch,, she has his eyes,, smile etc,,,, we shall see at trial,,,,,, ive been saying this from the beginning,,, when cindy said that,, that lead me to believing or suspecting george as the father of caylee,, theres the motive and why casey behaves the way she does,,,,
justice for caylee is coming soon,, that poor little girl,,,,
and law enforcement should go after george and cindy for obstruction , changing their stories and perjury on the stand and the behavior to law enforcement,,,


Margene   April 25th, 2011 8:03 pm ET

Caylee's father probably won't reveal himself because he is the key to the case. Yes, a lot of her boyfriends have been average Joes. What are the chances she met up with a thug or like Chandra Levy, a politician?


Daisy in Florida   April 27th, 2011 12:14 pm ET

Seems to me that if this was an accident that the defense would go that route in defending Casey. She certainly would get off lighter. I do feel this was done with intent to kill because of the relationship between Cindy and Casey. It is obvious that Casey was wanting to get back at Cindy and what better way than to take something more precious than gold away from Cindy.....her beloved Caylee. Casey is a human monster, a she-devil that only thinks of herself.


Mary   April 28th, 2011 10:17 am ET

Casey is inhuman, not able to have feeling for another life , but her own! She still thinks she is hot and is always fixing her hair & top blouse to make sure she is showing off as much as she can befor being told to button up her blouse.
She always walks into the court room with a smile or grin, as tho the hearings aren't about her, and what she did to her baby.

There is something wrong witht this women, a part of her brain is not connecting about her baby. She is in a different world, without consern for her daughter being dead!


Jan   April 28th, 2011 12:21 pm ET

My husband is a retired lawyer and is quite surprised that Ryan Smith is interviewing one of the defense lawyers before jury selection and a trial. Baez is talking about his charity work and his youth; isn't this a bit unethical? Is someone from the State going to have a chance to tell their story?


stacey   May 2nd, 2011 1:10 pm ET

Three questions..#1 In a text to tony(ex cop) on 5/08/08 She said zani the nanny and before 6/08 Richard Grund heard her say Zanny is the nanny. Does this mean she had to find a Zanny for her cover up by computer searches and then follow her around? Did she follow her to Sawgrass apts.? Was this done before Caylee went missing? #2 In Cindy's depo in Zanny civil case she stated she had Zanny's phone numbers. Where is this address book and why did'nt she use it to track her down after Caylee went missing? #3 Can the jury smell the can of carpet to identify smell of decomp.to understand,and validate, when people say "you never forget it" PLEASE ANSWER.


Arlene   May 3rd, 2011 11:33 am ET

Casey's "breakdown" yesterday looked to me like it happened once Chaney Mason started rubbing her back. Did you ever notice that when you're feeling sorry for yourself and someone rubs your back to "comfort" you, it brings on the tears. Reporters keep mentioning "tears", though I didn't really see any tears running down her face. I wonder how she was abler to stay so composed when experts were talking about plants growing through her baby's skull! Tears only start when she's feeling sorry for HERSELF. And wow, does she recover fast! The "legal assistant" routine is also driving me crazy!!!


Lori   May 3rd, 2011 6:02 pm ET

I think they told her that it's time to play the pity card. She now realizes that may-be I'm not going to be the little cutie that they let go. Birds of a feather. Bias and Chaney are in it for one reason and it's not to protect the poor little innocent mother, and it's for fame. And the money won't hurt. I still believe that she should have a public defender. I hope that everytime George and Cindy your mouth should burn everytime you say Caylee's name for backing and lying for her killer. They could still back their daughter and admit what she did to their GRANDCHILD! You raised her so now own it!!!


SUE   May 4th, 2011 6:41 pm ET

i think casey should own up to what happened to her daughter, regardless if it was a accident, or not, being a mom my self, i could not live with myself if i had any wrong doing with my sons or grandchildren, take the punishment if deserved, or take the stand and defend your self if u know u had nothing to do with that adorable daughter of caseys, who did not deserve to have her little life taken from her, grandma and grandpa of caylees, i dont know why u cant demand a answer from ur own daughter, i wouldnt of waited a month to wonder where my grandaughter was,, i dont enable my sons or anyone, who dont own up to mistakes , accidental or not, i pray god lets the truth be known, so we all can have closure.


Dina   May 5th, 2011 12:45 pm ET

I think Casey's parents want the visit with her before the trial because they want to convince her to plea, rather than putting all of them through this trial. I believe Casey's parents have accepted their daughter was responsible for Caylee's death.


Ron Furrer   May 10th, 2011 4:14 pm ET

Mainly perttaining to the Anthony Case , but as well as to Others too, But why in the Heck do they Have to have an Expert Witness for the Proscecution and an Expert Witness for the Defense ? Why cant it Just Be one Neutrel EXPERT Witness for Both , For the Truth is in the Forensics ! Just a waist of Time and Money ! All it is is a Ploy for the Defense to Minipulate the Truth. So in other words one of the Witness is lyeing ? than one of them should be Impeached , and given Just PUNISHMENT.


Kathy Thomas   May 18th, 2011 2:10 pm ET

Casey Anthony is not going for a plea deal. She is too cold and smug a person. She acts like a para legal helping the attorneys gather their papers. I am thinking since she had disagreements with Hosea she probably fired him.

I have always wondered where Casey lived prior to the death of her child and who paid her rent since she was not working? Also, for someone in prison she has more clothes than I do. Where is she getting her garb?


angie jenkins   May 21st, 2011 8:39 pm ET

well i think the truth will set her free. but since she can not tell the truth from a lie she does need to be sentenced to death or life without parole.cause she knows in her heart she killed her child she deserves what she gets unlees it is a not guilty verdict.cause that would be unbeilevable,i wonder how she can live with her self knowing what she did to caylee.if she did not want her she could gave her up fo adoption.or gave custody to her parents she did not have to kill her.and dont tell me she did not know what she was doing.their is a comandment that states thou shall not kill.but i dont want to keep supporting her in jail or prison anymore so just do with her as you will.before she does it to someone elses kids.i cannot stand to see her on my tv.


Jackie   May 26th, 2011 11:59 am ET

I feel like im watching oj and scott peterson trial!!!! Hose must of taken notes on that circus act???????? Casey is nothing but a big liar!!! For her (casey) to throw her parents under the train is unforgiving. For hose how could he go to sleep at night, blows my mind. God will take care of her and her JOKE Lawyer. THANK GOD judge perry is not a circus Barker like ITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nick   May 27th, 2011 12:45 pm ET

I believe the death of Caylee was an accident. I believe Casey would use cholorform to sedate Caylee so she could go out with her friends and would either leave Caylee in the car, or the trunk of the car with duct tape wrapped around her mouth incase she woke up, she wouldnt be able to scream or yell out.

On this one particular day, she gave the kid too much which caused the death of Caylee. In doing so, Casey freaked out and tried to hide the fact the kid had died for as long as she could.

I believe she got the idea of cholorform back in march from her then boyfriend ricardo. Once she was locked up, she started to speak to her mom and dad when they went to visit her, during one visit her mom, cindi, mentioned it was on the news that someone had mentioned Caylee drowned in the pool.

Stay in jail with a lot of time to waste, one can only do a lot of thinking, this is when Casey thought of using the drowning as a defense.

Her attorney using the statement of George holding the baby in his arms i think is outragous. i also dont believe George sexually abused her. I do think her brother when they were younger, tried to feel her up. thats where she got the idea of throwing her brother and dad under the bus to protect herself from possibly getting a death sentence.

Since i do believe it was an accident, I think she should remain in jail for the rest of her life without a chance for parole. O say this because she is lying and shows no remorse at all.... Only when others speak of her in a good way does she show any emotion at all... she is a selfish person and doesnt deserve no breaks.


S.C. Kelly   May 27th, 2011 12:54 pm ET

1. OKAY, SO NOW WE KNOW WHO THAT WOMAN WAS IN THE JAILHOUSE RECORDING ... THE ONE WHO SAID ... "If anything happened to that baby, I'll die, I'll just die."

THAT WAS MALLORY PARKER. To this Casey answered, "What? Talking to you guys is a total waste of time."

While people are so touched by Mallory's testimony, she should be called back to the stand by prosecutors and asked, "When Casey told you it was a waste of time talking about Caley, do you still think that was a special bond???"

2. Also ... Now that Casey admits there was no Zenaida Gonzales, WHERE WAS THE BABY all those times people asked about her?
And, can Ms./ Gonzales now win the civil suit?

3. If the baby drowned accidentally, why was there tape wrapped around her skull?

4. And finally .... It takes 24 hours for the human body to decompose (according to pathologists). If the defense claims the baby drowned, they would have had to leave the body at the side of the pool for 24 hours, because the dogs alerted to the side of the pool. This point could go in favor of the defense. But, do we really believe that Caley's slumped body escaped the hot, eagle-eye of the grandmother's radar? LOL.



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