Defense attorney says Pinkney is 'a dead man walking'

I wonder how Mr. Pinkey would feel if the shoe was turned around and he is the one witnessing his ex shooting his duaghter for the same action. Yes, women rape boys as well. This will be a question I will ask Mr. Pinkey. Ok, I do not understand how the monther of the victim waited 2 days before she did anything. I would have called 911, 411,1011 and every other 11. Something is just not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dealing with the problems he is dealing with, I would assume he is essentially lifeless. However, emotion from Sr. would in no way harm his case. It may make it easier to empathize with him.

Pinkney Sr. is a cold, calculated killer. He believed he had the right, as well as, the duty to execute his son....We have seen this across cultures..this belief...."I brought you into the world and I can take you out of this world!" No one has the right to act as judge, jury, and executioner of another living human being.

You know when a young child is raped they fear they will not be believed. So as a society we try our best to make the child feel safe so that they can be given the chance to tell their story.It was wrong for his father to kill him but think how you would feel if it were your three year old. If it were my child he would have gotten the beating of his life every time I looked at him. I would have called the police the night she went to the hospital.

Jamar Jr. Didn't deserve to die. Jamar Sr. Would have never killed my child without taking my life first. After the beat that Jamar Sr. Gave Jamar Jr. That would have been it: I'm not sure what was going through this family head at the time, but somehow everyone save themselves....SMDH Jamar Sr. Will go to Jail for this senseless killing. I do Believe when Jamar Sr. Contact the wrong person and Said: Baby it Done in my heart I believe Jamar Sr. Plotted to kill Jamar Jr and that's where justice will prevail!!!

I don't think the kid would have told his dad if he was areal psychopath...maybe he was experimenting and felt bad..not the signs of a REAL one

What I object to is the defendant being able to sit in front of the defense tables the way he is in this trial. I can't believe this is being allowed. First off, it should be expected that there would be a defendant and possibly two or more attorneys present, so why would there not be room for the defense team to sit along side each other? If this were a case where intimidation was an issue, that would be very intimidating for the state witnesses to have to testify with the defendant that close and his presence being so prominent. I hope the court will make better arrangements in the future.

If this was my child I would have called the police to meet us at the hospital. Once there is when I would tell them my child was raped by her half brother.

I think that any father would do the same thing if his baby was abused. His son in a way shouldn't have died but taken to a doctor for mental examination and help.

I think Jamar senior, was covering his own actions. I believe he molested his son and did not anyone to find out. That is why he was so quick to pull the trigger. A therapist
would have revealed this information.

In my opinion this is a cold blooded animal. No human should kill their own children. He shows no emotion or remorse for what he has done. He should face a firing squad for this horrific crime. I also believe that Karonne is involved in this killing. She is hiding more information than she is letting on. I believe that she gave Mr. Pinkney an ultimatum between the little girl and his son.

I am sad for the victims (mom)..both the son and the daughters mom. I Believe there are alot of inconsistancies with the procescuting witnesses..For ex the victims mom says and illustrated that he (Piinkney Sr) held his head and shot him in the back of the head execution style, however the medical reports show different....The mom seems distraught now but they also testified to running in the house and locking the door while leaving the son outside with the father while holding a gun, as a parent of two I would have thrown my self around my child. I believe Mr Pinkney snapped because of new details he learned from the son and the lack of the mom"s willingness to punish the son for his crime.

The question I would have for senior is "who protects ur daughter now that u r going to jail" they should have contacted the police n let them handle it. I wish grandma had gone down stairs with jamar Jr and maybe senior wouldn't have gone so far. He is a coward.

Instead of contacting laywers, Jamar Sr should have contacted magicians David Blaine and Criss Angels... No way is this man gonna ever see grass grow, smell fresh air and enjoy freedom again after what he did.

why would u shoot your own son in the face insted of callin the police that was worng man

At what point did he stop giving the same love to his son that he apprently had for his daughter. Whatever happen to talking things through and making a decision afterwards. I could never kill my child but I would certainly not let my child get away with a crime either. But this father obviously snapped or is a cold hearted man. The jury will decided on his faith and I hope he never forgot what he did.

I would ask the defendant if he could go back in time would he do things differently

I would ask him "How does he plan on protecting his daughter from abuse from a prison cell?"

I'm just wondering what his baby girl would have to do to warrant being shot in the head if he could do this to the son he professes to love.

My question to Mr.pinkney, is how can/what loving father can beat down ,make a 15 year old strip naked, walk him to an empty lot and put one hand on his shoulder
look him in the eye and shoot him in the face, and then say as a coward that he snapped.His son apolgized for what ever action the
father thought was so horrific. If the father had talked to and had taught the son sexual behaviour and it's consquences this may not
have happened.But the Bible says your sins will find you out or bring you to and open shame.

I have been following this trial and I feel that it was not just for him to kill his son however I understand that this man has been traumatized by actions on his son's behalf, his son displayed inappropiate sexual behavior with his young daughter. That within itself is enough to send any sane person over the edge. The act itself is punishment that he will have to live with for the rest of his life. His life will never be the same because he killed his name sake, not saying it was right or just but his son was out of control displaying that type of behavior with his 3 yr old sister and needed some very strict and hard punshihment to deal with him. People are commenting on his deameanor I think he is heavily medicated and constantly replying this in his head, sure he should be punished by not with his life who knows if his son displayed this type of behavior with his sister could he possibly grew up and starting raping females. Just saying seems lil brother had a problem.

I would ask the dad "What kind of relationship did he have with his son"? As sick as my kids make me sometimes and I may threatened to ring their necks but I dont think that I could put a gun to my child's head, and certainly not shoot my babies. I guess I'm a mom, maybe it's different for fathers??????????????????????????

The man was heartlessthe not was asking for help and he just shot him. Someone must have molestatio the boy for him to do that to his to his own sister

The man was heartless, the boy was asking for help. And he just shot the baby in the face. You r suppose to love both children

Where was the son's mother? And why did she let her son go with a man that accused her son of rape?

Dont you feel any remorse or sadness after what you have done?

I would like to know what Mr Pinkney feels his punishment should be, manslaughter or murder?

I feel so sorry for you but your son did not deserve to die. How do you feel now?

I believe that ms. Ivey knew he was going to kill his son. also she is after free money trying to get disabillity for her and MR. Pinkney. there are alot of parents out there that have had kids abused and killed. and they are not on disabbillity. He was trying to prove to Ms. ivey he is the man. he is a coward. may god forgive him.

How does it feel to stand over the body of the son you just shot and say that you have two children when all you have left is one living child your

I think Pinkney, Sr. went to the car, had a drink, and then needed to brush his teeth. No one has addressed that theory that I have seen.

I would ask the defendant what he thought he was proving by taking his son's life.

We should not judge Mr. Pinknet too harshly. He has to be in hell mentally. This is something he will never get over. I would be tried for murder too, if anyone ever raped any of my children.
I am sure he just lost it.

Are you aware that children being question under pressure are likely to lie or likely to tell you what you wanta to hear. Thinking it would stop you from pressuring them.

Who died and made Jamar Sr. God? While I can understand a parent being angered over this, why doesn't love for your son kick in?

Has anyone ever discussed the birds and the bees with Jamar Jr.? Did anyone explain the changes his body is going thru during puberty?

He loved his daughter more than his son.Sr.took 12 hrs to see his son after he got the phone call. I would think he would have snapped when he got the phone call, not hours later.There was time to visit his daughter since he said he was so concerned about her mental state. He didn't snap, he was enraged, keeping in mind, rage is not anger, no one should be subjected to rage. He's going down. He's clearly very cocky,

Why waste my breath asking this Sorry Excuse Of a father anything?..What I would Love to say to him cannot be printed on here or televised either...Just execute this jerk and get It over with....Stop wasting tax payers money on this....I would rather waste my breath talking to my cat....GeorgieAnn In Tennessee

Even though he was emtional he should have thought about his actions. what good is he to his duaghter in jail or getting the death penalty.

My question to Jamar would be how did you manage to bring the gun up to jamar jr.'s head to shoot him in the face with him on his knees naked crying No Daddy No. Where was your love for your son then?

I think the father care about the little girl more than his son. so he make the choice to kill him for what he had did to his little sister.

Let's not forget the life insurence policy opened a few weeks pior for Jamar Sr.

I would ask Jamar Sr. if your daughter grows up and someone else did this to her would he feel the same way or do the same thing to another victim.

I think what he did was something that every parent says they would do if anyone was to ever harm their child but rarely act out..the murder was wrong, but the molestation of a 3 yr old little girl by a person she trusted in my opinion is just as bad..just imagine how much further it would have went if the baby didnt tell, as a parent I can almost sympathize with the rage this father felt for the wrong that was done to this innocent little girl, in my opinion someone who preys on infants and children are the worst kind of people in the world – however there was a murder and this person will have to understand we dont live in a society where you can take matters into your own hands, there is no doubt this man will pay but I truely believe he will consider it worth it to have protected his daughter and other potential infants and children from his son.

I would ask Jamar Sr. if you were not planning on using the gun then why did you bring it in the house when you were (as you put it) so outraged.

wut if it was his daughter would he have dun the same thing

I am sorry for the entire family here. This must be the most traumatic situation of their lives. Any male who would rape a baby I have no sympathy for at all. I am sick of these sick males who often get off doing this with a 2 year or maybe 6 year sentence. What about the poor baby. A three-year old is just a baby. I am a full grown woman who has been married, had children, etc., and there are times when I can't take entry of a certain male. How dare you not understand the father from where I heard online: If there is something I do not know, let me hear it, and I will reevaluate. I find it difficult to not to side with the father. If he did it to his own sister, he would do it again and become what we already have too much of, a child molester, and they often kill the children. No good parent would want to own up to having a child like that.

I feel sorry for the baby that was molested, there is nothing more disgusting that anyone can do to a child. I hope that doesn't emotionally hurt her for the rest of her life. So sad that a 3yr old lost her innocense

How can you listen to your son plead for forgiveness and his life and you still shoot him?

This man is a cold blooded killer. I would ask him was he a FOOL. Because a fool is a person who thinks he can get away with anything and can do anything. This is what this person is. I feel very sorry for the 15 year old mother. All I can say is keep God in your life because the devil has a whole of the father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it is truly amazing that a man that works for long hours five days a week as a letter carrier, in sometimes the worst neighborhoods, without his concealed weapon should find it necessary to carry it to a meeting with his son and son's mother concerning a matter as sensitive as this where everybody's emotions are high and he could'nt come to talk to his son without a pistol!!!

Did you carry the gun with intentions of killing your son?

He need to burn in hell that don't give him the right to kill anybody so i don't fell sorry about the dad god will handle him and them inmate will too so he will see what hell look like

U know its sad when u call ur self a parent and u don't have no remorse at all. He had already planned 2 kill his child when he didn't go 2 work they need 2 give life and let the people in jail take care of him .He will not make it in there because what he did 2 his child.

I was so perturbed when writing my response that I made a few typo errors, I apologize for this, but this type of headline is far too much to bear. How is the baby girl? What kind of mental state will this take her into later on in her life? I am more concerned about her, not her brother because he will never be able to tell me that he did not know what he was doing, or that it was not wrong to mess with his baby sister. If he wanted to do tryouts, it never should have been with a relative, and definitely not a three-year old. How many times did this baby have to endure this torture? Identify the difference between him and any other child molester. It starts when they are young and nobody does anything about it, so they grow up to feel they can do it again and again, and even graduate to murder. How disgusting.

I've been watching this trial on TV this morning and I'm just @ a loss for words, I can feel his pain as a father but yet I think he took this too far....

Why didn't Jamar Sr., question his daughter.
If the mother was so upset about the rape kit not being used, why didn't she request it?
Why wasn't she satisfied with the outcome of the ER's finding? Why didn't she tell Jamar Sr., to meet her at the doctor's office the next day, instead of dismissing it to be with Jamar Sr. If her little girl was so upset she didn't want to talk, she had no problem on the 15th, and why would the mother let her go to daycare the next day. Especially, if she was staying home anyway?
Her family doctor wasn't much better in getting his facts straight.
Things just don't add up.

This is not something I agree with nor would I ever condone his actions however I can understand the outrage from a father after learning that his son or anyone for that matter violated his baby girl!! It's tough to know how one would react to this situation unless you were in his shoes. I have heard many times from both moms & dads that they would kill someone if they ever touched their child in that manner. Being his own son would hurt even more and in more ways than one!! The embarassement, the disappointment the concern for his baby girls mental state were too unbareable for him.

I would like to know if Mr. Pickney himself was molested or witness molestation of a family member. How could he kill his son! He should get First degree murder! He had thought about it for days before he killed him! That man is a mentally ill person! He didn't snap-He should've murder him when he first heard of it! Crazy!! This is when my future law degree will be tested to what specialty I will pursue! It sure as hell won't be a criminal attorney!

E.R> Examination found no signs of and abuse on the little girl, yet one day after the killing they find a laceration, something is a foul.

This is a "horror" movie! The lady has witnessed her son executed by HIS own father, the little girl has yet to grow up and her past will hunt her too. Some day she will be told the truth and will possibly bare some regret that she was indirectly involved in her half brother's death. Mr. Pinkney must haven't had that great of a relationship with his son prior to this happening. Teens do go through puberty and its quite apparent to the parent in their behavior. They had him in pictures dressed up like a man. Didn't they think his body parts and signals had changed? In hindsight - let us all be vigilant with our children– protect them. Don't leave a little 3 year old around a 15 year old. There's to big of a age difference. Unfortunately things can happen and do happen.

My question is, if Mr. Pinkney called into work to say he would not be in that particular day, why did he carry his gun? I don't believe he snapped. That's just an excuse.

if jarmar sr. and the little girls mother were seperated why was jarmar jr. at that home/and how long had it been since this humping took place

my question to Sr. would be "what in the world happened to you as a child that would make you behave in such an exaggerated, animalistic manner?". Not that it matters AT ALL in this case. and for those who've said that learning of this situation would make anyone react that way- HUH? anyone would murder his only – what was the defence attorney's word, "beloved" son? any attempt to explain away this animal's behavior, suggesting that they can understand how he could do that to a child, is simply preposterous.

Had the ER doctor done what is mandated by the state and reported this alleged abuse to social services, both children would be alive and Jamar Sr. would not be standing trial. Social services would have responded within hours, removed Jamar Jr. from the home for his safety and ensured the safety of the 3 year old. What was an emotional grenade in that household would have been disabled by the system if only the ER doctor had done what he was mandated to do.

i wonder why none of the doctors did not turn this accusation in to the authorities?

i'd really like to know how long a fit of rage is supposed to last when people are screeming at you and enough time has lasped for you to take your son's clothes off, march him outside butt naked, force him on his knees and deliberately shoot him in the face. That does'nt sound like blind rage to me but sounds like deep hatred and resentment for his son.No real parent can even spank his son or daughter without feeling pain. How can a man pistol whip such a defenceless child who was three times smaller than himself and then shoot him point blank in the face!

I'd like to hear the defense attorney ask Jamar Sr if he would want to have his son back. Even if he blacked out and shot the son that he was actively fathering, would you want to have him back, alive right now. He could have gotten help for his son, help for his daughter for what she has experienced at such a young age. But now his son is gone...does he want him back? Or does he feel the boy deserves to be dead???

This father has pushed the limits of a father applying "tough love", he should placed in prison for the rest of his life we should not allow him out by putting him to death. He should be allow to remain alive to live each moment to relive his action each day and place with others that will bring fear to his heart and being. I think he should not be allow the easy way out.

My heart goes out to Mo and her family. She use to do my hair and every time I've ever seen Jamar Jr., he was truly a sweet kid. My prayers go up for the family and I hope Mo know's that God is a healer and comforter. My question for Jamar Sr would simply be "What now?" What do you do now? How can you press on with your life and ever be happy again? My prayers go out to Jamar Sr. as well because he is truly dealing with something unexplainable.

Why have a trial at all? Seriously...in those cases where the perp is known and has no defense to actually killing the kid one person, the judge, should hear ONLY mitigating circumstances and sentence accordingly.

Perfect example of why we all need to STOP & THINK about our actions before we make them!!! Easy to say but very difficult to follow.

if the tables were turned and his daughter was the accused abuser, would he have shot her?

Mr. Pickney, You need help and the fact he didn't have his mother growing up is why he snapped! It's nothing like having a mother in a boy's life. I have an organization for boy's and 80% of them don't have parental involvement-especially their mother! It's important to have parents in a child's life but men are more disgruntled without their mother's present! Violence in this world is unacceptable! Mother's love your sons and stay involved in your sons lives! Save Our Sons!!!

I would like to ask the E. R. Doctor why didnt he report the alledged raped to he police? It seems to me everything good have been avoided if that was done. Also I belived the two mothers should have talked to the little girl and then talked to the little boy together and then contacted the police because of the allegations.

PASSION OR NOT, Joanna....He killed his son and admitted to it, he's guilty and deserves the consequences!!!

I could go either way on this case. I believe he should be punished, but definitely NOT the maximum punishment he could receive. He snapped. Who is to say he didn't suffer from some sort of sexual abuse as a child. Anyone who has been through that in their life can vouch for the fact that you will never forget, and you'll do anything to stop it from happening to your own child. At the time of the killing I don't think he was in control of his actions at all. If he would kill one of his children, over something he did to the other, that is not a sane man's actions. I doubt that he loved his daughter more, but when his son confessed he went crazy. When parents refuse to punish their kids, or even believe they are capable of such actions, they encourage children to act this way. But what is the correct kind of punishment when your child admits to raping/molesting his sister? He wouldn't go to prison for it. I know if it was my son and he had done that, I don't think I could ever kill him, but I guarantee he would wish that I had. However, I could see how that could drive someone to do the unthinkable.

I am appalled at this event. I feel for both families but it is evident that when the defendant visited the grandmother's house on the next day his intentions were to kill him. I understand that he had a permit to carry a gun but with intentions to protect himself. Did he have to protect himself against his own son? I also want to know why after the visit to the girlfriend Karonne Ivey officials, were not notified and why would she wait 2 days later to take their child to the doctor after an alleged sexual assault? This little girl is almost a baby. If it were mine I would not wait for anything. His demeanor is cold and haunting. What reason could justify him killing his own flesh and blood? Was this act to prevent the son from ever being hurt again? If it was he will not be present in her life to protect her from behind bars. I also feel the situation could have been handled more professionally but sending authorities immediately before leaving that hospital or doctor's office.

I question one thing–all the pictures show a small boy (maybe 7-9 years old). How tall was he and how much did he weight? That being said- its still not right to kill anyone.

Every one is coming down unmercifully hard on Mr. Pinkney. He was told that his 3 yr old, baby girl was raped. Yes under U.S law the accused victim was a minor, however the victim in this case was physically built like a man. The first victim in this case the baby girl which was only 3 yrs, can now say by the age of 5 I’m not a virgin. And for as Mr. Pinkey not showing "stander" emotions, dose not label him a cold blooded killer or a monster. People are different and deal with fear, hurt pain differently. Mr. Pinkney was wrong, but he snapped, the thought of his baby girl being rape drove him over board.

A life insurance policy isnt evidence for murder.It was only 10,000.00 please I have way more than that on my children alot of people expecially if their not rich have life insurance on their loved ones even children that way when the unthinkable happens you wont have to look to other people for money to bury them. also he didnt take out the policy weeks before this happen . I think a year or two

I am a retired law enforcement officer in Michigan and Jamar Sr had no right to just make his own son strip naked, make him kneel and execute him while begging for his life. If Jamar Jr did do what his father is saying, turn him into the police and let him go to trial. Sr. is on trial, innocent until proven guilty but his son never got that chance. What a dad!

As a mother I would have thrown my body over my son's body before I let his father or anyone else shoot him. The bullet would have had to go through me to get to him. Mr. Pinkney deserves to go to prison for the rest of his life. He shows no remorse or emotion of any kind. Both parents are responsible for this child's death.

Whos really the coward the son who couldnt answer the questions? or a father who thaes a gun to a discipllnary situation

I think he should be punished. His son did not get a trial just the permanent punishment. However, I do think his sitting in the time – out chair in front of the court room is highly prejudicial.

im sure he does deserve a fair trail..just like his son deserved one.and why the day they took the lil girl to er , it showed no evidence of the rape, would it after the murder of the son did it then show small lacerations.i too agree something was done to her souly for the fathers defence

First, I do not believe Sr. should have shot Jr. But, I am concerned about of the lack of attention paid to what Jr. did especially when it came out that he had been thinking about this for some time. This was a 16 year old boy whose attention should have been focused on 16 year old girls not a 3 year old. He was a child molester with a potential of being a serial child molester or rapist. This is how this sort of thing start.

Close your eyes and visualize this boy attacking this little girl. If this had been some other kid and not the son, would your panel of guests be more understanding of the father's feelings and rage.

The court room set up is crazy with the empty chair and even the Head on the table showing where the young man was shot. It's unfair that Pinkney sr. Isn't sitting next to his Attys. Suppose he need to speak with them. The man can't get a fair trial in such a set up.

I agree with Ms. Joanna about the trial itself being unfair. Bad judgement has been shown throughout this traumatic process. I don't think putting JP Sr. in front of the defendants table is any safer because now he is closer to public officials. What about there safety?

I would ask Jamar Pinkey Sr How can you be so calm? Is it because you took care of that and its not a worry any more? Just asking a question.

I think he should get death. He had already beat the boy badly he did not need to bring a gun into the picture. As for the mother of this little boy how could you stand and watch anyone beat your child like that and not call the police while the beating was going on maybe it would have not went as far as it did. Someone should of had the guts to pull this man off of the child.

I am completely appalled and angered by the less than professional
attitude of Dr. Brashour.
His laughing, snickers and smiles are offensive to me a rape surviver and in this case of a small child his witty and evasive smart alleck behavior definitely makes me wonder about his credibility.
He hurt the defendant and I would vote guilty.

Wondering if Karonne believe Jamar Sr. Acted appropriately, by killing his son. Yes Jamar Jr. was wrong but was his action worth being killed

What a waste of taxpayer money. He is guilty!! If he's claiming that he "snapped" or any other 'mental illness', then he should go DIRECTLY to the toughest mental institution in the states for the rest of his life. Also, the E.R. said there was no penetration, a few days later there was???? Perhaps it was done by someone other than Jamar, maybe so that dear old dad could get away with murder, but let's blame it on Jamar. The father is a cold hard-hearted killer and needs to be put away for life. Amazing how the justice system in this country has justice for the criminals, not the victims, in so many instances. We only have rights if we break the law!!! How ridiculous!!

I believe that jamar jr admitted to exactly what he did and that was hump his little sister but not penetrate her and that's why the first doctor found nothing wrong with her.But after he admitted to his father of what he did, the father told the mother of the little girl and that gave the mother a reason to do something to make the situation worse. I think the mother penetrated her daughter with an object and then took her back to the doctor and that's when the second doctor found laceration on the little girl.

How much did Jr hate Sr? What is the ultimate revenge on your father – raping his daughter.

i also believe it was done to show love for the other woman he deserves to rottttt in hell&jail for that his son needed his daddy at that time and some councling not a bullet to the face by his own dad not even a stranger on the street

I think that it is sad that no one at anytime that I have seen ever questioned if Jamar Jr himself had been sexually assualted by anyone.

I think that the father knew what he was going to do when he did it. The mother of the child said that she did not take the child to the doctor's office because of the shooting but still as a parent she had the obligation get the 2nd opinion regardless of the shooting. I feel bad that something may have happened to the child. I am curious what prompted the young boy to do what he did. Was there a history of him being abused because in most cases there is. This man put the life of his daughter before the son. The fact that he beat him and made him strip indicates this being not a crime of passion. If it were a crime of passion he would have shot the son as soon as he admitted to touching the girl. He deserves life. No one did what they were supposed to do. The authorities should have been called asap. Why weren't they? It bothers me that the police were not called.

Pinkney Sr says the mother tells him he wasn't man enough, I just ask, does he think he was parenting enough? His son was fifteen and going through puberty, perhaps that caused him to touch his sister.....death wasn't needed.

i just dont understand why they would try to shut the little girl up now, if she could tell the parents what happened then they should have let her tell a doctor, someone who can help her about it. its not like she was going to be in the room alone they have 2 way mirrors that the parents can look at the children being evaluated. if anything i would want my child to tell someone about it so that she would be believed. what are they trying to cover up by trying to shut her up? is it the fact that jamar sr. is really the one touching on her and raping her?

I just don't see any possible justification for killing your own child regardless of what this child had done. He killed his own flesh and blood mafia style; it was clearly premeditated and this should not be considered a crime of passion but rather cold bloooded murder.

I would ask Mr. Pinkney- Since the testamony stated that his son had asked his forgiveness and he quoted that he was not the one that he should be asked of that question, and since this has happened, has Pinkney Sr. asked God to forgive him for what he has done, (God's number one sin) and should he be forgiven or would he understand if he was not forgiven and instantly punished as his son was? Would the Death Penalty be a too lengthly punishment for him taking on God's job? What lesson has his son or daughter learned from this parent's disciplinary action? I think life in prison will change his heart and show him that his pre-meditated action was not beneficial to everyone concern. I think the killing of a brother will have a more profound consequence on that 3 year old child not having her father in the years to come than the killing was. Justice will prevail.

What I think about the Pickney Case is that the mother of the little girl was upset she thought the father loved his son more than he did the little girl so she came up with a plan to make the little boy not so good in his father's eyes. I think she proabablly gave the father an ultimatum " your son did this to my baby and you have to make him pay. She probably worked the dad into a frienzy. He probably didn't even realize what he was doing.

how did jamar sr feel the day after he killed his son when he was notified that a second doctor found lacerations on his daughter.Did he think something was strange about that?

although he was a mailman and he had lots of rental properties around that area was poor boohoo the mom so afraid that his money was going to go on his son instead of his daughter? talk about a gold digger!!!!!

I have been following the trial, and watched Pinkey Sr. testify today. People on In Session have commented all day that he was detached. I don't see a detached man. I see a broken man. I also don't think this was a premeditated crime. He carried a gun on him on a regular basis. He didn't do anything out of the ordinary that day by taking a gun with him. Having the gun was part of his routine. I absolutely think the father snapped. The fact that he took the time to strip the son naked and beat him doesn't mean he didn't snap. Psychotic states don't last the same amount of time for every one, and eveyone doesn't respond in the same way. I don't think what happened means the father loved his daughter more than he loved his son. No one knows how they would respond in this situation. This case has made me very sad, and I know both families are destroyed. The father deserves to go to jail for sure, but I don't believe he should be put away for life. He has no criminal history, and has been a responsible adult to this point.

I just heard the reporter ask the victims(the little girl) mom if her and Pinkney Sr. had discussed what he was going to do and she said she couldnt answer that. If she knew or had a feeling that he was going to bring harm to his child she could have warned Jamar's mom or PD or someone that something bad might happen and being she didnt why isnt she on trail for consipiracy to comment murder especially if they had talked about what he was going to do because if she had no clue he was going to do anything why couldnt she just say "No I had no idea he was going to shoot his own son".

I think that there is more to this story and family that has not surfaced. Was the son molested? I just don't understand why the cops were not called? As horrible as the thought of someone touching your little girl, Sr. took the law into his own hands. He needs to serve significant time. Had the family on both sides did what they needed to do and involve the authorities it may have been discovered that something happened to Jr. making him touch his sister (but this does not justify anything). It's just a sad situation. The same way that Jr. would need to be punished for his actions had he lived, as does Jr. In the end, I blame all of the adults involved because no one did what they needed to do. This situation could have been prevented, instead a young boy is dead and a little girl is left without a father as I am sure he will be in jail.

Everyone is judging the father but no one is looking at the 3 yr old girl and how she was RAPED my her brother. No one knows what they may do in this situation. Some people snaps and some do not. There's another situation, when the parents took the lilltle girl to the hospital, why wasn't the proper authorities called. The hospital call the the police for a simple bruise and didn't call for a possible sexual abuse case. The doctor and the hospital is to blame too because if they would have done their jobs, maybe Jamal Sr. couldn't not have gotten to Jamal Jr because Jamal Jr would have been in jail or foster care...in other words, ALIVE!!!!! Everyone that's forming an opinion on this man has snapped in one form or another. His actions was a no turning back situation and he realized it after he did it or maybe he thought that he gotten rid of ,as one of the commentor on the show, his daughter's monster. Everyone is looking at a father shooting his son. Now, the father is out of the picture and 2 families will hurt for GOD knows how long and I bet no one on this blog is offering help to either one of the families. Stop blaming and passing judgment. Shut up sometimes, stop getting so emotional and look at the whole picture.

i feel the mother of the 3yr old had something to do with the dad killing his son. she knew what he was about to do to his son snapped does not mean that you wait 12 hrs to do something that horrible. the love of your child is too strong to kill them there had to be something else done besides this monster taking his own sons life he should be executed the same way stop waisting time people

If I had a 15 year old son and He molested his 3 year old sister I'd kill him too.I wouldnt be able to sleep at night knowing I gave birth to a Monster that would more than likely do it again to ANY child.He didnt tell his Mother he had been doing it until he got caught and would still be messing with the little girl today if she hadnt said something about it.People that do that cant be fixed.You cant change what you are attracted to.He was 15,and old enough to know it was wrong.They teach you what good touches are and what bad touches are at a very young age now.Theres no excuse for what that 15 year old did.Humping is a sexual act,theres no way around that fact.One less child molester/rapist to worry about.Kudos to Dad for blowing his sick brains out before he grew up to be OUR problem.
As for our justice system...They need to quit giving "life" to habitual non violent offenders and give it to the ones that deserve it...Like child rapist and killers.....you get less time for manslaughter or sexual offences than you do for getting caught with drugs and thats screwed up.

There are absolutely no winners in this case, period. You have a little girl violated, her brother killed by her father and a family in grief. There are many who say that they would kill someone who hurt their baby, but if that person is your own son...that's just too deep to comprehend. I believe many people dropped the ball in this situation, starting from the mother of the children to the people at the hospital who first examined the little girl. It's a sad situation and one that is so bizarre and gut wrenching, I can barely watch it on In Session.

>>MoNique- good point about the insurance policy, MoNique- that's gotten lost in this trial.

I didn't read all of the comments so I apologize if this has already been brought up, but has anyone thought about an alternative motive. Usually sexual abusers were sexually abused themselves. Isn't it possible that the son was killed because his action might bring to light his own perpetrator and his own abuse?

Usually I don't comment on matters, but this man is satan himself. There is no way that a father would have killed his own son. This is not the first time this has happened between siblings, even though it is horrible, other families have sought help for both the abuser and the victim. I also feel sorry for that poor little girl. Not only does she has to live with the horrible of being raped, but also with the burden of causing her brother's death.

Perhaps I've missed something here. When did Jamar Jr. have his trial? Where was his day in court to defend his "actions"? He never had that opportunity because his so called father decided his guilt. Yet our concern should be that he is treated fair and just. I think not!!

Why should he be shown sympathy when he couldn't do the same for his own child?

I feel he is getting way better treatment than that afforded to his son. I hope that this crime is one he will have to live and die with.

I want to make a comment to some of the viewers, one said if the father had talked to him about sex or similar. I don't care whether father talked to him about sex or not, he knew not to be "humping." his baby sister of three years; not of any age. Where are the symbols of moral decency? Perhaps you haven't heard of males attempting to put their penis's in the mouths of little babies, and little babies bodies. There was a case of a male doing that to a 3-month old baby, 2-year old baby, 3-year old baby. We don't know exactly how many more. I know this is a growing disgrace. What about our concern for the little helpless babies? They can't defend themselves.

i would ask sr. did he kill his son for the money or to get back with the lil girls mom cuz they dont seem to be sad the boy is dead ..i think they both did it for the money

if he truly loved his son and had any comoassion, when his son said "no daddy, no" he would not have pulled the trigger and just walked away.

why didn't they put insurence on both kids at that time sr. was the lil girl dad too they didnt do it cuz it was planed to kill him for the money and made up the rape so it would look like jr was a bad kid both sr and the lil girl mom had time to make up this story look at the time frame ........the lil girl mom knew he was gone kill his son that day thats why she never made it to the doctor's and ended up with sr that same day they really need to look into that............

I would ask Mr. Pinkey what he feels should be an appropriate consequence and how he should be held accountable for executing his son.

I can only imagine what was going through that young mans head as his father was dragging him out of the house. I still can't believe someone in that house did not stop him. If I would had been in that house I would had called 911 when Sr started to beat his son. There would be no way I would allow him to remove him from the house. Why didn't someone stop this horrible man?

Debbie A

In my opinion this is a cold blooded animal. No human should kill their own children. He shows no emotion or remorse for what he has done. He should face a firing squad for this horrific crime. I also believe that Karonne is involved in this killing. She is hiding more information than she is letting on. I believe that she gave Mr. Pinkney an ultimatum between the little girl and his son. Mr.Pinkney is not "dead man walking" his 15 year old son was.

I really do think that he killed his son intentionally, if the family said that were going to work it out and the little girl mother wanted to press charges so be it, why kill your only son!!!!

I would ask Mr. Pinkney if he felt the crime his son committed waranted execution, Shouldn't his punishment be "The Death Penalty" for taking the law into his own hands and killing his own son?

jamar sr. is messed up in the head jamar jr just humped his little sister jamar sr. shot his own son, i dont care he should fry,he said he mad he humped her but to kill him that's worst

It is just a tragic situation. This man life changed because of his son's actions. He was a good dad to both of his kids. He was not an abusive parent previously. I am sure he is questioning the situation over and over in his mind; how did i get in this place? He can not changed what he has done neither can he bring his son back. It is true! What our children do can affect us. If it was not for his son's wrong doing they would continue to be going on with their lives. I am afraid that this man must be punish. He killed his one and only son. He knows the truth of what played out and he will have to live with it for the rest of his life. His daughter will not have her dad thier to love and protect. There lives will be affected forever.

I'd ask Jamar Pinkney Sr., "Did you kill your son because you were afraid that he would reveal you were sexually abusing him and now he was reportedly doing the same thing to your daughter?"
Next, " Do you feel your actions were justified? What kind of prison sentence do you think this defense of rage should mitigate?"
Finally, "What kind of mercy were you feeling for your son when he was begging for forgiveness and his life? Now that you are begging for forgiveness and your life, in freedom, how much mercy should be shown to you?"

Jenny
Seattle, WA

I am afraid that it is a tragedy for everyone. When I began watching it I felt overwhelmed by this dad's actions then I remember what I tell my children; what you do may affect other people. Well, this young man's actions changed his dad's life forever. This was a dad that most women look to have; he was responsible and loving to his kids. One event changed their world. Surely, this boy could have been respectful and loving but something was yet wrong. He was 15 yrs old who did know better and the scars of the victiim is left printed forever. The dad can't change any of it. He has to face the punishment and deal with his actions. It does not matter what he think about his emotions. All of thier lives has been affected forever.

First of all I am sorry 4 ur loss very sorry...Not very many people( or parents) would take a stand with there kids but I have to back up mr. jamar sr. i would not like it if any of my son, nephews, uncles , or any man or woman touchin my child i would go blistic on them too.. I did not carry my child for 9mons and raise them 4 some sicko 2 touch or harm them.. our childern are our future....

Why didn't they go for the death penalty? Because he is so cold!!!

My Question to him would be before, during or after you started and finished beating and killing your son did you realize he too was hurting and had a problem and he too was your child,something that should have made you at least realize this and grab him up saying I too feel your pain my son and through the Grace of God we will get you some help, and get through this......YOU WAS HIS FATHER AS WELL!!

This was very wrong for Pinknet sr to do, even if he thinks that he was protecting his daughter. Even though he is guitly and he knows that and knows that he will spend life in prison, this man should not be displayed in court the way he is. They have him sitting in front like he's the star of a freak show, that is wrong and shouldn't be allowed by his attorney's or the judge.

This guy shouldnt even get a trial, if you are going to murder your own child then you dont deserve to live!! What he did to his son needs to be done to him..with no remorse!! "EXECUTION-STYLE"

I know that if you keep on and on at anyone they will agree with anything you say to get someone to leave them alone ,if this boy did anything to this little girl he needed help ,his father planned on shooting him or he would have left his gun in the car ,he already said he can't carry it to work with him ,so why did he put it on that day ?

As a result of my childhood experiences I have a flat affect. A family friend who is a FBI agent said I am almost unreadable. My demeanor often causes conflict as people will think I do not care about anything when it is really a matter of me controlling my emotions.

That said, Pinkney's demeanor is not flat. The expression on his face is not one of a person who feels nothing, but one of a person who appears annoyed to even be in court. Pinkney's expression reads as if he thinks he should be free rather than on trial facing serious time.

It could very well be the case that Pinkney feels nothing. It could be that he lacks empathy or remorse for what he did. It could also be an act concocted to support his claim that Jamar Jr. admitted to rape, despite the other people present in the room never testifying to that.

I think that Pinkney Sr. was just soooooooooo Angry that he shot his son. His original intention was not to do so. When I get angry, I mean really really angry, I do crazy things. Thank God there are no weapons around me. But I have snapped in the past. I completely understand what made him do it. Is it right, no. I have an 11month old Son and if someone molested him, I might kill him or her with my bare hands. I was raped as a child and molested by 2 different individuals. And a separate individual tried to molest me, and I fought back, but those situations have changed my life forever.

Pinkney Sr. had time to stop with the procession of the shooting. This is clearly premeditated murder. He stripped him of his clothing. Marched him outside and had him kneel in front of him. He new that he wanted to kill him.

I was in ABSOLUTE SHOCK!!!! when I heard about this case.I don't believe Jamar Jr. raped his sister...where was the evidence? Granted he was maybe curious...we don't know. but I don't believe he raped his sister. I do believe his sister's mother really exaggerated what ever happened and for what ever personal reasons she had,she really made this worse....I wonder how she'll feel looking back and seeing her role in all of this?Because I feel she's just as guilty as the one who pulled the trigger...if not more so...there's been something brewing there for a long time and she added fuel to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never seen anyone so cold hearted in my life.... He did'nt care about his son and he never did.... Cause if he cared about his son he would of never killed him point blank.... U don't kill the person you love, especially your son.... He looks like he doesn't even care in court... I hope he goes to jail for the rest of his life for First Degree Murder, no questions about it.... He is so lucky there don't have the death penalty in Detroit, MI, cause that's way he needed to be....

Ifeel bad for both family

Would the same had been done if the son was from the same mother as the daughter was? If so, I don't think that Ms. Ivey would have allowed the same results. She would have tried to get some help for him. Mr. Pinkney and Ms. Ivey thought about the trauma to the daughter but did they never acted remorseful that this child's life had ended. I think the both of them feel that what Jamar Sr. did was right because it was for the sake of their daughter. That could be why there was no emotion showed by either one of them for the life that had been taken. He showed all of that passion for his daughter who had been touched, not brutally raped, as they keep saying. But he can show no passion for the life lost for his son. This man wants to be able to make his "judgment" for taking a life and be forgiven and set free by the jury. But his son never got the chance to make things right, get help, or be rehabilitated, even with all of his apologies made.

He will get his he did not have the right to take anyone life but his will be gone sooner then u know that girlfriend of his new and she need to go to jail with him that is so sad that his live was taking from him at a young age but he is with god and he will be ok god bless the family and sorry for your lost

This is a very sad case because we have here two victims the son and the daughter. Child molestation is something that has been going on in several families for several years. I don't think that the incident between between these two kids was the only motive. I think that there is alot more to it then what is being heard in the court room. But we will not hear about everything because the defendant is not on trial for that. I think that there was some bad chemistry between the father and son and the father took it all in stride and killed his son. We have a case involving two children whom are probably both victims of sexual assalt. We know the daughter is, and I believe the son is a victim of sexual assalt because of the age he was when he did this to his sister. As for the defendant, he deserves to go to prison for a very long time!! Instead of getting help for the children he decided to play God and committ this horrible crime. He said that he bought a gun for self defence!! Well where was the defence?

I would ask Jamar Sr. if he knew what state of mind he was in, why did he bring a gun to meet with his son? I will answer my own question. Because he knew ahead of time what he was going to do.

If people watched Jamar, Sr beat and then shoot Jamar, Jr. and did not help to rescue him from harm, they are just as guilty as the father. What mother would watch her son being tormented and not aide in someway? Isn't she suppose to protect him? There's is something wrong with those people.

I think the father should face the firing squad.

If convicted of murder, will Pinkney face the death penalty?

Likewise, I'm not buying the "cold-blooded" animal line. Although Mr. Pinkney obviously has some psychological issues, more so stemming from a reactionary impulse, in which a 'temperate' head should've prevailed, he doesn’t display the type of maladaptive behavior the court clinical psychologist has promulgated. “Psychopathic”, this word is being a little too ‘loosely’ over used nowadays, when in this case it obviously doesn’t fit the profile. Mr. Pinkney hasn’t exhibited any prior behavior which would’ve indicated an extreme ‘psychological disturbance’ i.e. psychopathic personality such as being disseminated, by several clinical professionals. However, cold his demeanor, Pinkney is obviously suffering from an acute state of shock; I mean come on the man ‘killed’ his son…. I think the ‘tail wagging’ professionals should be more concern with what prompted this child to envision committing such a heinous act as opposed to overlysimplifying a diagnosis for Mr. Pinkney’s.

most parents would of talked to their son(together) about what happen , so they can find the truth. when we were kids,we fooled around w/ our sisters and brothers and our parents talk to us,but did not make a big deal about it. This jerk needs to be locked-up 4-ever.that poor baby!!! debbie in ohio

Someone should of taken the initiative, to call the police or someone that could of helped prevent this horrible killing of his son....Im sure that the little girl's mother knew before the killing- mabe she could of prevented this tragedy.

I agree with Dee. This monster was so afraid that his own son was about to expose his father for molesting him, he chose to end his child's life, instead of inconveniencing himself. I hope he burns.

Mr. Pinkney and ms. Ivey why was it so easy to decied to kill your child. Ms. Ivey you didnt call life insureance to give the money to little pinkney jr. Mom to bury him you wanted it before they found out who killed that child. Mr. Pinkney i am so sorry that the little girl was morlested but didnt both of your children desever the right to get help and to have your love and support though this time of Crises. I hope your sons words stays in your mind every min. Of the day for the rest of your life. These babys could have got help. Why didnt you find out who morlesed pinkney jr. And take care of them, was it you. How do you shot your on son. You cold hearted man.

I was rolling thru channels when I came to this case this morning. I have been crying intermittently since. I am haunted by the voice in my head "No Daddy no." I don't believe this child really believed his "Daddy" would klll him. Just as I can't believe that any one would kill their child in this manner. This man failed his child in so many ways, I can't even start the list. I wonder what did he ever talk to his child about, did he ever had an emotional connection with this child – if he did, how could he hurt this child. I also hurt for the mother of this young boy & wonder how many times will she blame herself for calling this father "over" that day? If this young man face & voice is now haunting my mind, how much more pain must his mother & grandmother be experiencing? When did we get so cruel to another?

If he was so upset over what happen to his daughter why didnt he go to his son mother hme as soon as he was told what happen by his son mother instead of going to his daughter mother hme.bc what happen was she boost his head up and told him if he dnt do something he isnt going to see his daughter again.which he dont need to see her anyway since he seem to be a treat to his kids

He didnot kill his son in a heat of passion.he had enough time to cool down plus he wasnt that angry until he went to see his daughter mom.

I believe that the daughter mom was trying to justify his action.yes mostly everyone loves ther kids and she. Can see and help her daughter but ms cherry can never see or help her son recover

I dnt think he was so in love with his daughter.i think he was trying to prove bad for his daughter baby mama remember she still loves him very much and wanted to get back with him so she use any excuse to get him to spend more time with her and her daughter then with the son

This has to be the most senseless thing a parent could ever do when it comes their own child and trying to protect them. Some people dont think before they react, thats understandable but when it comes to a situation liks this its just sickening. When you really ouline the lives that have been taken away from both sides of the family its just a shame to even think about. The son life has been taken at a young age for a shameless act, a yound girl childhood has been taken and will stick with her for the rest of her life , and she will also be traumatized for not being able to forgive and her brother and move on, and her father who has lost his life the prison system for acting out in rage of a senseless decision. HEARTBROKEN

father has the nerve to ask for mercy on his own behalf when he clearly was unwilling...not unable to give it to his own son!! what a hypocrite as well as a coward!!! i know what the son did was terrible, but how many parents deal with this and still support their children? parents of serial killers show better support. there is no excuse for his actions. he took it upon himself to play God, he better be thankful that God loves his children because he is going to need all the loving he can get right now.

This is hard case for me to watch. Even with the father not showing emtions, I have been crying thru the fathers testimony. This is a hard case, he does need to face life, because regards of what this child did, he shld have contacted law enforcement and let them handle it. I do agree that Karonne had something to do with simulating his mind in doing this and know he had a gun on him, she should have called Monique to give heads up.

i think he had issues with his son already and this caused him to lose control.Also he is probably in shock at this point and it is all unreal to him!!!

For all of you who are making excuses as to why this man shot his child, STOP ALREADY. He is a monster, not crazy, he didn't snap, he calculated every move, from making this child strip naked, to making him kneel in front of him, and then looking him in the face as he begged him not to kill him, and then pulled the trigger. This man deserves no trial, He should be taken out to a field stripped and shot. unfortunately are justice system will just put him away, feed him and clothe him, hmmm sounds terrible huh, thankfully he still has to stand in front of God on judgement day, then he will get what he justly deserves

I agree with the comment frm Monique, this young man was going thru the changes as a young man, had anybody spoke to him abt his body. It sound like he was experiencing the change.

If it was not your son but another human being, would you have killed that other person or let the law handle it? That would be my ? for Mr. Pinkney, Sr.

I feel so sad for the children,and the mothers.never to judge anyone, but this monster would have had to shoot and kill me, before ever getting my child,the child i gave life to and carried in my womb, dam right we would be meeting the lord togther, besides i couldnt live w/out anyone of my children,i pray for these mothers and the children, GOD will deal with SR.
tks kathy

Everyone says Jamar Jr was a good boy, very mannerly, never gave anyone any trouble. Why were they all so quick to believe that Jamar sexually molested the little girl, which was not proven. There are ways to question children and these people had no experience in that department. I think the whole thing was overblown. I feel Ms Ivey exaggerated the extent of the situation for her own selfess motives and this dumb, coward of a man fell for it. In reality, his affect is flat because he realizes by now that things were not as they were told to him by ms Ivey, he got played. And that thing with making the child strip naked. He knew he was going to kill the child. JamarJr came into the world nake and Jamar Sr took him out naked. It was a planned killing, plain and simple.

How sad Pinkney Jr. didn't receive the same justice Pinkney Sr. is receiving.

I think that Karonne was involved too because the minute I found out about what happened to my daughter I would have taken her to the hospital and called the police. For Karonne to worry about insurance money is crazy! Mr. Pickney had time to cool down while he was upstairs brushing his teeth. The beating was enough and he could have called the police to get ld lock him arrested. I think they should lock away him and her for life.

If this was my son, I would not have just stood there and watched his Father kill him. I would have done something to stop him, Jamar Sr. does not have the right to take anyone's life. When a child says they have been abused/molested. You take the child to the doctor to see if it is true first. If it turnes out to be true you notify the police and have the one accused of committing the crime arrested.

I have been watching this since day one i dnt believe he should have killed his on child (jr) ur on flish and blood..i think that the little girls mom had planned this with the dad..they all way say that it had to be something done to them for them to try or do it to someone else..i blieve in my heart that he should get LIFE..he should of try to get the family counciling and not took things into his own hands..he needs LIFE!!, RIH PINKNEY JR.

I just found out about this case. I believe someone coached the baby to say the son did these things to her. The reason I feel this way is becuzz it happen to me in my daycare center by the time the Detectives questioned my 8yr old son and my 13 yr old nephew went back to talk to the mother of the child she would not answer the door for them and they closed the case. While I was keepin her child she was tryin to get social security for falling down the stairs @ work which was a lie. Since it didn't come through for her she thought she was goin to sue me. Now before this occured I hadn't kept this child for almost three years she was 2 yrs and was still learning how to talk, but when she did she told everything she didn't know not to tell. I said that to say this. I'm with Ms.Gail they badgered that boy so much that he confessed so they would leave him alone. They took the baby to the Dr. And there was no evidence did they ever tell his mother there was no evidence. I believe if they would have the situation would be different.

I hope there is a special place in hell for someone who kills their child. Maybe the Michigan State Prison is the next best alternative.

I hope the prosecutor asks why he strapped on his gun to go discuss the problem at the Cherry house. That is enough premeditation in my book. End of case.

Senseless and very, very sad.

Kiz – and others – I'm confused about some of your comments. Who ran inside and locked the door? Surely not Jamar Jr.'s mother, who watched her son die. Surely not his aunt, who ran down the street for help. And, do you truly expect this boy's mother to have the exact trajectory right as she's reenacting the shooting in court?? Give me a break. Have you ever experienced anything that traumatic and had to recall it? These women had no way of even getting their heads around what was about to happen. How could they possibly have anticipated that?? They did all they could, including fighting Jamar Sr. off physically, calling 911, and trying to keep the situation from escalating. If you believe any different, you have not been paying attention to the testimony, and the timing of this very quick event. Have all your facts straight before you judge, people.

what do you mean experimenting he was too damn big to be humping on a 3 yr old and shes sayin it hurts experiment w/ur hand or a pillow or something!

Both were his children ..His duty on life is to love and protect both ...n this case both need help his girl need allot of help to over come with the rape or wherever happen to her....The boy need to face the low and allot of therapy everything that take to help this young boy..thats where a loving parent is expected to do

I can't beleive any human being would actually kill their own flesh & blood. The 3 yr. old would have gotten counseling,and probably never remeber this, I know I can't remember anything at three. I know that mother of Jr. will never forgive her self for making that call, Jr, could have gotten help as well, my question is how could all those women watch thi child get beat like this no way in hell I would have let it happen, he never would have strip my son off naked and made him march pass me . Sr. would have had to kill me too. He's a coward if any men would have been present it never would have happen that why he didn't bring in the gun he wanted to see if any men were there with those women, I hope Sr. never rest and for Ms. Ivey I hope she is satisfied she still didn't get her man, and the 3 yr.old no dad.

I hope that I never see another or hear of a death of a young man, at the hands of his dad. This man and I use the term "man" loosely in this case. I've watched this trial from day one and they still didn't prove that Jamar Jr. raped his half-sister. He obviously was very inappropiate to put it lightly . The difference was his conscious and his heart wouldn't allow him to go on speaking lies. So, he does what we want our children to do own it and get the help that was so desperately needed. He told his parents and "Begged" for forgiveness. What more was Jr. to do? That's what I'd like to ask Jamar Sr. I just don't think Jamar Jr. stood a chance no matter what. Blood was what he was after that day, otherwise Jamar Sr. would've let things calm down after the E.R. Dr. told them she was pysically ok. Ms. Ivy wouldn't let the situation calm down. I know a little about care given to possible victims and the Dr. at the E.R. was right on. So on she raged and now nothing and nobody will ever be the same. Jr. is dead Sr. is possibly looking at life in prison and the little girl will have to grow up without her dad. Sad and disgusting as this is to me this could've been avoided if she had done the right thing called the police and let them do a complete investigation. In the end it was up to Sr. to listen to son and not take his sons' life. So, let justice be done.

When Pinkney came to Jamar Jr's home and bought the gun with him,he planned to use it all along. At what point did he(Sr.) decide that he was God and that he had the right to be Judge, Jury and Executioner. I still believe that pressure was put on him by the 3 year olds mother, after listening to her comments today talking with Ryan. Plus she has not once said anything about remorse at Jr's death. He has to face God on judgement day and I wouldn't want to be him!!

I think someone else was molested.

There was one moment that Pinkney showed the slightest tidbit of emotion. When his grandmother was on the stand, he looked almost emotional. Other than that-nothing. His team should have advised him to show some kind of remorse, at the very least, when the mother was on the stand.

How do you go to anyone's house, where there is a child, with your gun on you! Oh yeah, toothbrush, gun–who leaves home without those??

ummm... of course it is not right for the man to kill his son, but really, the boy supposedly RAPED his 3 year old sister. Why is it ok for a boy to rape his sister?

if this was a stranger who raped a 3 year old girl, people would be saying he was doing a public service, but because the RAPE of a 3 year old was done by a sibling (which is actually WORSE for god's sake) everyone here seems to think that slapping the boy on the wrist is all that should've been done. wow.

maybe people should think about how you would feel if your kid was RAPED!! that 15 year old boy gave up his right to life when he RAPED a child.

simple as that.

but go ahead, let your son rape your daughter and hold his hand and tell him it'll be ok.

good luck with that.

Jamar, Sr. lack of emotion has no bearing whatsoever in my opinion of him and his crime because lots of people are like him, no emotion, ever. Is it a type of mental illness, I don't know but I do think he died the day he killed his son and if given an opportunity of freedom he would refuse it. He knows he did the worse crime known to a parent. He is dead inside, I truly believe that.

I don't understand why no one attempted to prevent Jamar,Sr. from taking Jamar, Jr. from the home. Why did no one call the police BEFORE

That guy has a face and look of a stone cold killer. How could you possibly choose one child over another?

I don't understand why no one attempted to prevent Jamar,Sr. from taking Jamar, Jr. from the home. Why did no one call the police BEFORE
Sr. reached the outside lot with Jr.? Why would a 15 year old boy want to get in bed with his mother? Why did the mother allow her 15 year old son to get in bed with her?

What are the psychological ramifications of Jamarr, Sr. in having his son strip naked, marching him out to a field and having him kneel?

Why is the testimony of the Pediatrician admissable when his examination took place after the murder, and thrfore had no effect as to the killing or demeaner of Pinckney Sr. that happened the day before

I think this man wasn't thinking correctly but he was in his right state of mind no excuse for his actions. My heart goes out to his mother and family who had to witness this brutal act.

Jamar Pinkney's testimony is as flat as his affect!

all kids play with thereself if the mother say.they dont then she doesnot know kids at all would he kill the girl little if she had done something to the littleboy

This is the saddest case of family violence that I have ever heard of. I been watching this trial from the start, I don't like the father at all. And I liked the little girl's mother even less. I believe the father went to visit the son with the intent to kill the son. He could have left the gun in the car. The girl's mother was totally uncompasionate regarding the dead son. What about his mother's feelings. Is'nt it strange that the girl's mother and father was not in arelationship before the son's death-but now they are back in love agin. Who bonds over the death of a child? Pickney Sr. should be "a dead man walking" as his lawyer says. But let him do his walking in Prison for the rest of his life. Even if the son did a bad thing- his life is over. He will never get to redeem himself. Did he really deserve to die the way he did. The father has also made mistakes, and noone shot him in the head.

Everyone expresses emotion differently, and I can't imagine what state of mind Jamar Sr. was in when he found out that his son molested his little sister and Jamar Sr. daughter. It is unfortunate that the majority of the post seem to forget what happened to this 3 year old BABY....what this act has done to her. I don't condone Jamar Sr. actions but don't forget about the little girl...who now has to live with being molested and having to visit her father in prison probably for the rest of his life. It seems as though the situation snatched the life out of Jamar Sr...and probably why he isn't showing any emotion...and even if he did show emotion people would be critical of that as well...then the discussion would be, he is crying to much, it seems fake and all of our wonderful judgements that everyone who isn't in this position seem to have authority to pass....SMH!

I think the son was at the age to know right from wrong,His dad brought him in this world and should be able to take him out!But of course that dont fly in this country.

This is a sad case but, this man has probubly stopped a child molesting rapist from effecting the rest of the world!

I think that the Children’s Hospital physician should be charged with the misdemeanor of not reporting the allegations. I understand that his physical examination did not lead him to believe that she had been molested, but because the chief complaint for the visit was because the child had been touched, it should have been reported. Molestation can occur in many ways: fondling, oral sex, and/or intercourse. If a child has been fondled or molested orally there may not be any physical evidence; therefore, the doctor should not rely on his examination alone. ALL suspected cases of child abuse, molestation, etc. should be reported! It is not the physician’s job to determine if a crime occurred, he needs only to report his findings to child protective services. If the Children’s Hospital doctor would have reported the incident like he should have, that little boy may still be alive.

I'm confused. Did Jamar realize that by killing his son, he had just committed murder and he was going to jail, going to lose his money, properties and his young daughter. I'm not convinced that he intended to kill his son before he arrived. I think he was so mad that the boy's mother and family tried to down play the situation.

Pinkney sr. story of what went down that morning sounds a little fishy. He acts so cold and uncaring ,he talks about shooting his son as if he was shooting a dog or a wounded animal.

How can he say, his SON rape his daughter, her hymen was intact. There was no proof. He killed his own SON, on what a 3 year old said? That is sick. I don't believe his SON confessed.

Jamar Pinkney Sr., is full of crap. The doctors said the little girl was NOT penetrated...Hyman was still in place. But, he want us to believe his son told him he raped his daughter???? So, now he gonna believe his son over the doctor. He wanted to kill his son when he first heard the news.

Mr. Pinkney Is a cold-hearted psycho killer. Any person that beats and kills their own children deserve to be locked up for life without parole.No matter what the children did!

I believe the rage that this father felt was so overwhelming that he got lost. I can only imagine the horrific hell he has to endure now for losing control. It's all very tragic. People should not own guns!

I believe the father, his story sounds truthful than the mother. and I would lose my mind if that would happen to my little girl.

He went over there with an intent to handle a situation himself, you know try an be the father, sadly to say he knew he would handle it by killing his in a lot..his expression give me a nasty taste! I have no doubt this man is guilty

Yes, why wasnt the other mother n daughter in the conversation rather it was just mothers..

It is what it is this man Jamar P, is not sick he made a mistake and now he has to pay for what he did, unfortunatly he took his sons life away I'm surprised he didn't take his own, I don't think this man has a criminal record, you can clearly see he comes from a good family they are all gathered in the court room supporting him and there family is going through a lot, and are in my prayers,may God me with them

I understand what this man has done.I feel for the little girl.It seems that no one care but her father what about her feelings she was 3 years old and had to go through something like this I feel for her.If it was my child I would have done the same.Sorry for the people who don't like my comment but I don't like people who defends rapeist.

I think that the testimony that Jamar Sr. gave was totally and completely rehearsed and it is amazingly strange that he remembers every detail of this incident except one or two, "i don't recall" answers at conveiniently timed places. How does a man in blind rage remember such detail except it is rehearsed and the prosecution continuously objected to the defense leading the witness! This was anger from the worst kind of hatred. Clearly Sr. wanted to get even!

I think that Jamar Sr. did not loose his mind the way he said that he did. I don't think that Jamar Jr. did not say that he did what he did. I think that Sr. just put in his head that this is what happen. Jamar Jr. would have told his mother first. He knew what he was going to do and his little girl mother might have knew what was going on. There is no evidence that the son raped the sister. It was all in Jamar Sr. head what went on in his mind. I hope the court see's that it is alot of lying going on and the little girl's mother exaggerated about what was said. And anyone can see that by the way that she was talking and her statement. And some how, she made the childs doctor see things in another way, he really don't know what went on. This is crazy1! JUSTICE IS ON THE WAY!

I can’t believe how full of self-justification Pinkney Sr is while testifying. He has absolutely no remorse, no afterthought of his actions for having shot his own son. He didn’t snap, he made a conscious decision hours beforehand to kill his son for whatever reason other than the rape he’s claiming he and the mother of the little girl had.
Trudi

The ER doctor failed in his duty to the family and to the State. Though the girl's genital tissues did not show sexual abuse (the boy's effort to molest may have failed), the Dr was mandated to let Social Services know and subsequently remove the boy from the family until this was sorted out by impartial professionals. The boy would be alive and Jamar Sr. would not have killed his son. It should be manslaughter and the family should sue the ER doctor.

Now.....here's my comment on all this, ok yes he's going to jail for doing what he done, we all know that, the man has admitted this, but I'm more concerned about how this case is being handled, you ask me this guy will be granted a appeal because of the mickey mouse way they are handling this case, give me ah break, both sides are handling this case as poorly as I've ever seen! & whats up with him sitting in the middle of the courtroom ALL ALONE? What's with that? When did we in America stop letting defendants speak with their lawyers during a trial? So this is where I'm at with this case, this man has admitted what he did, and he WILL pay for that, we ALL know he's guilty, I now focus my attention on HOW this case is being handled, and from what I've seen so far I bet you all a wooden nickel this man is going to be granted a appeal, you watch I say, and then they'll waste more taxpayer money on a case we all know his guilty on.

Remember Marvin Gaye and his father, do you think he would have killed his son intentionally, we wept and mourned but some people just lose it, and thats a big 15 yr old who was aware of what he was doing , thats why he plotted and waited like a lion on its prey, but the mother and grandmother should have NEVER left him alone knowing the sensitivity of the matter, and the repercussions to follow. The father probably thought he failed his daughter and in that split second of insanity he lost it and acted as he was defending her , not even thinking this is my son , who I am doing this do.

I agree he was aware of what he was doing. His counsel should've advised him to word himself differently if he's trying to use an insanity plea. I've only watched about 20 minutes of this trial. Just now watched his explanation of the events that occurred up to the shooting that day. I don't know the man, but my first instinct is that this was a family matter and that he isn't a danger to the community. He killed his own son. He dealt what he felt was justice to his sick pervert son who raped his daughter. If it was unjust – the punishment will take care of itself. Example: If the sons mother feels it was an unjust killing then she can kill the father.

Sr. probably made the right decision. His son was more than likely a future rapist and or child molester – a future felon and inmate. By humanely taking his own spawn out he probably saved countless people and his community from harm.

Ooooo.. boogy booogy booogy.

Mr. Pinkney is not exhibiting any signs of having a conscience, no feelings of guilt or remorse about executing his son! It's frightening to see Mr. Pinkney having no struggle with shame and to be so stoic and uncaring about this horrific event that has lasting effects on so many innocent people.

He is starting to get real uncomfortable in the witness chair.......the prosocuters pushing all the right buttons and asking the right questions.
His jaw is going, wiggling in his chair.....here come his true feelings.

I am sorry but no matter how strong or how much you do not like to show emotion in front of others, if you loved your son as a father should and you actually have remorse for what you did and you are a human it would be absolutely impossible not to break down or at least shed ONE tear! This man is a monster who deserves the worst possible outcome.

Everyone is talking about how cold Jamar Sr is.If he cryed and acted like JR mother, would that make people feel better JR is still dead. I beleive SR is dead inside.Something in that family is not right while JR didn't want to live with his mother?
I have a 2 yr old granddaughter if someone raped her I don't know what I would do.I hope I wouldn't do what SR did.JR was a child molester in the making, If he did this to his sister what would he do to other little girls in the neighborhood? don't get me wrong SR was wrong to kill his son, but maybe he kept someother child from being raped in the future.

It was stated the Jamar Jr. didn't like going over to the stepmothers house and was always at the Grandparents house, I'm wondering if Jamar Jr. had be sexually abused, was he examined for abuse during the outopsy? Maybe this is where he developed this behavior.

i believe the defendant is telling the truth. Everyone reacts differently during trauma. He def needs to be punished but he is no criminal. I feel bad for everyone. This is a situation that is horrible and only God can heal the wounds. I just don't believe this man had intentions of killing his son. When my dad died on stage singing, it was a shock to me. I remember everything that happened but it was a blur at the time. That's the only thing I can compare this situation to. Lord please help the mamas, grandmas, grandpas, dad, and everyone who is suffering from this. I am sorry if I have offended anyone. He will be punished.

I cannot second guess the mother, because I have not walked in her shoes. But as far as the dad goes, its an open and shut case, there can be no defense for what he did. None!

I would have never put this defendant on the stand. I feel he comes across as arrogant and also feel he may have had no love at all for his child. I also don't believe his claim of "losing it" and think he killed this boy in cold blood.

I have been just lost in this case we as a society are quick to judge even without knowing all facts, facts are a man finds out his 15yr old made some type of sexual contact with his 3yr old daugther (everyone handle situations different) you would of thought he would of talked with son and based on that conversation got some time of help, but he had to deal with the 3yr olds mother and clearly she had a reason to be upset but if she had some other motives to take advantage of the situation and make the father feel bad about not taking some drastic measures she yelled and made him feel less as a man and father to her daughter or her jealousy she had for the son and sr. relationship he felt he had to do something to show her he loved his daughter too, not agreeing with the action he did, the actions the 3yr old mother has show, calling insurance agent about the victims policy is clearly out of line that wasnt her place and trying to get disabilty she is really trying to ride this based on a sad incident that involved her daughter so sad, if the adults in this case wasnt all about themselves and how they felt they would of thought of the children involved and if they were true protectors like ms ivey so called claimed to be it would of been a better out come but she clearly wanted jamar sr. to only have one child, well now look she has a dad behind bars, you know what part you played in this ms ivy shame on you.

I believe hiscomment of the "bad taste in my mouth" was metaphoric because he did not believe what his son was telling him. At that time, he not only retrieved his toothbrush from the car but most likely retrieved his gun as well. Then he comes back, brushes the "bad taste" from his mouth and wants his son to, again, begin from the beginning with the details of the sexual abuse... the son suddenly confesses to rape? Seems like a well written script with a designated plot..., don't you think?

Hard to pay attention when the prosecution is so annoying!

She's got a terrible voice, and her questions are running over and over the same points.
Very annoying

I think we are watching a man who knows his life is over. I believe that inside everyday since the murder he has been hollow. He called jamar jr a coward for what he did to his sister. When truely he, himself is the coward. What lil jamar did is wrong 100%! I believe that jamar jr realized that & wanted to get help to right his wrong. Instead jamar sr allowed his RAGE to guide his actions! The child was begging for his life! An to commit such a terrible crime in front of the childs mother and she is begging for his life also!

shame on the 3yr olds mother using this situation to ride for her own benefit so sad i believe something happen but how could she and the father make up stories the young man is dead he is not here to defend himself of what he had took part of and here they are ms ivey so called loving parent she is trying to cover for jamar sr.. so sad how could she even think what he did was right i know her daughter was harmed but there are other ways to handle this but shoot a young child in the face
and it happens to be your son, im just lost

John mad ea statement on this site that Jamar Sr. brought his son into this world and he will take him out. John, do you hear what you are saying, only GOD should be able to take you out of this world. God brought you in this world. God was not ready for this childs life to be taken. He does not end your life in tragedy. Wake up people! Jamar Sr. did the crime and he is going to do the time. May GOD bless the people in the three families.

This man is a sociopath. No guilt, remorse, empathy or conscience.
That is how he was able to do this to his son.
That is how is able to THROW his dead son under the bus, by stating his son admitted to doing an even more devious deed than what he did. All in order to save himself.
He says he is able to cry over what happened to his daughter yet all the times he speaks of it, there is not one emotion.
Unbelievable!!!!!

Reading the comments below bewilders me. We can ALL give advice and accuse, point the fingers and say, well what I would have done. Well, we were never in this situation. Yeah, of course this man would have done things differently. That's a no brainer. He snapped. Good man all the way up to this point and shot his son, THE MAN SNAPPED. It gets me upset when people say: could of, should of, would have. You don't know what you would have done when your mind starts playing tricks on you. He could have worked it out over and over and over and over in his head even without hearing his son say the detail. You just don't know. I feel so bad for everyone involved in this case, I really do:(

According to his testimony. I feel his son admitted to the sexual assult under duress, for the fear of his life. He scared his child in to admtting. His child was innocent

Dana.

I like his answer there is no handbook for this type of thing, so no one should judge him and his demeanor shouldnt matter. I do not agree with what he did, but who know how they will react.

I understand that he was enraged by what happened, but what I don't understand is why everything is about "my daughter" as he refers to her yet and at no point does he express concern for why his son committed that act. There is no handbook in raising children, but where was his love for his son?

Am i the only person to have a problem with the procecution little Hitler she attack everyone she interrogates we know what he did was a terrible tragedy but to say he made a choice between his son and daughter because he wanted to see her i believe that was a normal reaction he knew that after his actions he would probably not get the chance to see and hold her for a verry longtime. She the proce utor has done some things that are not right by me there must be thi gs that she can or can not do in a court room like attacking her own witnesses or put a head with a arrow on her desk or put a chair to replace the victim so she is guilty of bad taste or judgement herself i would like to know if this is allowed in a courtroom and if so why and if not why is she getting away with it , i think this is cruel and shows her lack of compation for the victim and tge familly she is full of herself and does not care whom she hurts to achieve her goal I am sorry but i believe this to be wrong and of bad taste.

Is there any testimony from the little girl? She isn't going to appear in court, but certainly she has a therapist, is there a tape or transcript?

Listening to Jamar's mother describe what had encountered the day before the killing and then when the killing took place was incredibly rivetting......how Jamar Sr. took the boy outside, had him strip his own clothes off and put the gun to the back of his head and fired.

OMG this all happened while the boy was screaming 'No Daddy, No Daddy'.......the bullets drilled into the boy's head and he was dead.
Daddy calmly walked away,,,,,,,got in his car and drove off as if he was
just going to the store for milk.

On the stand, he was calm, unemotional and disconnected as he gave his testimony as to how he murdered his son. He was the Jury and Executioner for his own flesh and blood.

I hope he has nightmares for the rest of his life, but somehow I don't this that will ever be a factor with this murderer.

RIP Jamar Jr.

GULITY GULITY GULITY. This cold and heartless killer had only one thing on his mind and that was to kill his son. He sits on the stand with absolutely NO emotion not even showing any emotion for his three year old daughter that was supossedly rape by her brother. He also, has anger management problem he is all dressed up but beneath the suite there lies a killer with serious problems. Instead of calling the police and let them handle the situation, he chose to take his son out side put him on his knees and shoot him in the head even as his son is begging no daddy no daddy you have got to be heartless which this scum bag is. He is fooling no one, and i absoltely do not believe him when he said his son took of his sisters panties and that he took off his underwear and started to have sex with his sister, i believe one hundrerd percent that Jamar Pinkney made that up so that he could have an explanation for why he shot his son and he wanted to be graphic so that the jury would be leaneant on him after hearing something so graphic. He is lying to himself if he thinks he is going to fool anyone, if he hand no intension of killing his son he would not have brought a gun this guy acted as if he was going to a gun fight with a stranger. As i am watching this trial i am disgusted with this guy and i will be happy when he is found gulity of first degree murder and spend the rest of his life in jail, at least the streets will be kinda safe. There, is a monster inside that guy.

He is a dead man walking! They got that right! I hope he get's life in prison without ever getting out!

I agree that what the 15 yr. old did (if he indeed did do sexual assault on his 3 yr. old stepsister) was not right, however i can not fathom a father shooting his own son in cold blood....I hope he gets life for what he did...Let him live everyday with what he did to his own flesh and blood, his namesake at that...And he shows not one ounce of remorse for what he did, hasn't even shed a tear....He is cold and heartless....I hope this will haunt him for the rest of his life but i really doubt it will.

I just can't believe what I'm reading on some of these blogs. First why would Jr take of his clothes and hers if he only humped her. Their was a tear and the ER did not pick it up. These ER's are crowed and rushed and that doctor was not a specialist. The ER's always tell you to check with your private Doctor as soon as possible because they know they only do a half - job. This boy was 5'2 170 lbs on a three year old. He didn't have a chance to complete penetration because she started to cry and he didn't want any one to hear. I'm not saying this child should have died, but if jr's mom and family were not trying to hide this and keep it in the family, the police should have been called as soon as they knew something went on and he still would have been alive.

Iv been watching this since day one. I feel so bad for the mother and her familly. Mr.pinkney sr. says he new the night before and if he was that upset he would of went over that night. instead he waits till the next day with a clear mind and beats and shoots his son. he knew what he was doing. that was his only son and yes he might of done wrong but u get him help not take his life... he is sick alright but he knows what he was gonna do to him and i hope the jurrors see it too..my heart goes out to the mother

This is undoubtedly the most incompetent prosecutor, defense attorney, and judge I've ever seen on your show. They all appear to be unprepared.

The questioning has been boringly repetitive. Questions are asked again and again the same way while expecting a different answer. It has been very frustrating to try to watch these incompetents in action.

This prosecutor has the most irritating voice and demeanor I've ever experienced. I think they're beating a dead horse to death. Get to the point of the questioning and get it over with. I expect her (the prosecutor) to ask the defendant how many times he breathed during this encounter. PLEASE get it over!!!!

Everything Sr. did to his son was thought out and deliberate.He remembered too much to have been in a "blind rage".

I have never seen a court case like this one. The Prosecutor has me confused with her cross-examination. Does she really not have her facts straight or is she trying to trip Jamar Sr. up?

the dad needs the death penalty

This is the worst case I've ever heard. I feel bad for the mother's in this situation. I don't believe that he would do this to his own son. I can understand blacking out and getting so upset that you just feel like you want to kill your son for something like this but to actually shooting your own son! wow this is a mess. I can honestly say that i feel bad for the dad also. Just because he has to live with this for the rest of his life. How he can live knowing that he killed hos son for something that could have been handled in another way. He could have took his son to a counselor to help Jr. Its obvious that something is wrong with the son. I cant believe that a man would say "you know what you did and now you have to die" to his own son and then pull the trigger.

Mr. Pinkney has very selective memory on the stand. When he went to the home of his son with the gun, when he walked him out the door he knew exactly what his plan was. Nice try–but he's guilty!

Mr. Pinkney has no remorse for his actions. How does the defense expect us to believe that it is not a planned, cold blooded, execution of a defensless child. This man does not deserve more than what he gave his son.

One more thing after all the pleading of his son saying sry daddy and the beating he gave him he could of stoped. but say it was the daughter touching his penis wondering what it is would he have beat and killed his daughter???????

I'm a father of 2 girls. I would have done the same thing. Rape isn't something you forget no matter the counseling or age. Everyone talks about God & this guys judgement, however in the word of God the punishment for a man forcing himself on a woman is death. In some circumstance the man was forced to marry the woman. In conclusion, rapists aren't reformable. When it comes to a child, the abusers should be put to death, our legal system is incompotent when it comes to this issue. I think this man just saved a llfe ppl from being raped.

I agree with Darnell Metcalf. I am more disgusted with the prosecution than anything else. She is sarcastic and trying to be Judge Judy who is pathetic. This man has appeared to be sincere. We all know that the father is guilty. We can understand him snapping..... that was his "baby girl." Yes it was his son, but most parents will be more protective of the baby, even against your older child. Think about it. 2 children together younger child lets out a piercing scream and cry. How do you feel as you approach the older child? "What did you do!!!!" To kill your child is tragic, no question.

All of you who say that the doctors said the baby was ok, there was a note saying that the day after the killing the doctors found a small laceration in the girl. How many times have doctors missed something?

A+ for this prosecutor she just threw him under the bus when he said he did not have control of the situation and that he did not know what was going on. He walked right in to her trap, he was trying to have his answers ready thinking he knew which way she was going but she threw him a curve ball that he could not catch. She knocked him out of the ball park.

i feel that he knew what he was going to do and what he was doing when he shot his son and i think he should spend the rest of his life in prison to reflect on the fact that he killed his own flesh and blood death is to good for him.

What about the three year old baby who was raped by this sick boy. Who probably without a shadow of a doubt would have been a rapist the rest of his natural life , exceptional if he could have done this to his own little baby sister...... all I can say is if this was over seas he would have died the same way but by the law , here we make the wrong doings of people right and put them in prison where you work them like slaves. They get out after a few years and someone else falls victim to the same fate most. Of the time it is worst. I do believe that man snapped as I would if my son had done that to my baby....he probably thought he was eventually going to do it for real......what does anybody think the baby girl is going through or was thinking when he was on top of her?

I believe that this case is very sad! Mr. Pinkney Sr. is displaying everything that Jamar Pinkney Jr.'s mother said. He loved his daughter more than his son. He is constantly trying to make his son look like the criminal. I believe that Jamar Jr. acted out due to the lack of attention and love that his father showed him. I personally paid attention to Jr.'s mother's testimony about how Pinkney Sr. acted and behaved toward his son. Any father who really loves their child would not have gone as far as he did. At some point, I believe that he would have came to his senses before he shot his son in the back of the head.

the main proof of intent is the phone callafter the killing of his son I TOOK CARE OF IT guilty guilty guilty

i think he went over there to kill his son and he is on the stand and he is not showing any remorse he went over there with the intension on killing him.

Reasons why Pinkney Sr. killed his son:
1. Jr. could never live up to his fathers expectations.
2. Jr. was overweight and likely not very athletic.
3. Jr. may have been a slow learner / possibly immature.
4. Jr. was closer to his mother, aunts and other female members of the family.
5. Pinkney Sr. knew that once the information came out, his son would likely be labeled as a child molester, thus causing the family (expecially Pinkney Sr.) a great deal of shame and embarassment.
I believe Pinkney Sr. is relieved that his son is dead and that's why he shows no emotion during his testimony.

The one question I would ask is....If the mother had gotten between you and your son, would you have shot her to get to him? because if he says no then he was in his right mind when he killed his son. I wonder if that might have saved him. Just would really like to know as I have been in a similar place and I defused the siituation in this way.

I think he is trying to not get angry, it seems he is trying to keep his composure.

If a 15 year old penetrated a 3 year old she would be split from stem to stern and screaming bloody murder. I'm not dismissing his touching the 3y/o with his penis but rape, NO!! And KILLING him, this guy needs the death penalty, he executed his son

I would like to ask Mr. Pinkney if he is sorry.

It seems to me that Mr. Pinkney Sr.'s testimony is rather self serving. He knows that his only hope is in admitting that he killed his son, but he is not taking any responsibility for the act by claiming that he had no control over himself. It is such a sad situation all together, obviously, and I wonder how the little girl that may or may not have been hurt is reacting to all of this. I hope that she is getting the help that she needs. I am afraid that she might blame herself for the death of her brother......she told on him and her father killled him......now her father is not accessible to her. My heart goes out to her and all of the rest of those family members and friends who so obviously loved these children so much.

look this man knew what he was doing and what did it for me was when the doctor was on the stand thats the only time i saw a reaction from him look at his eye's when that doctor was trying to tell his story this is were the set all this up

Sad to say but Mr. Pinkney prevented a pedophile from hurting future children. But... he still murdered his son. The system would have slapped this boy on the wrists and let him out to molest again.

I have actually been put in this situation. My step brother told me to go ride my motorcycle I left and the bike broke down as soon as I left I came back home and as I walked in I heard my sister screaming I snuck in to see what was going on My step brother Ted was Raping my sister I screamed for him to stop, I ran in to my dads room and Grabbed his 357 gun and I shot him 6 times and killed him. I was 13 years old I was sent to a home for boys for 5 1/2 years. I didnt even remeber what I did it took me years to remember. I feell for this man.

To me, Mr. Pinkney's body language is saying I am better than you. He is almost tilted back in the chair with his head thrown back as if he is looking down his nose at everyone.

Cheryl
Mesa, Arizona

I have absolutely no sympathy for Mr. Jamar Pinkney, Sr. He's sitting on the stand stone faced. I would have agreed to certain degree of discipline for the son if the facts were present instead of hearsay. Had he been referring to a stranger raping his daughter I could understanding him snapping. This was his son his own flesh and blood. Then he humiliated him in his final moments by beating him and forcing him to strip naked before taking his life. He took the life of his son who was begging for his life. He deserves nothing but life in prison with no chance for parole.

My problem with Sr. is that he has a permit to carry a firearm. He testified that he owns rental property around the area, and it is dangerous. Yet he went to the hospital that evening, came home received a phone call around 1:30 am from his son with a confession. He shows up to his sons residence with this gun. He had called off from work for 3 days, yet he rememberd to strap his gun to his waist! If he was calling off work, was he planning to go check on his property? My second problem I have is with the mother of the daughter. In her testimony she herself shows no signs when she reaccounted him telling her what he had done to his son. She didn't pause, she didn't reflect on it. The mother of Jr. came to the hospital to offer some type of support to the daughter and the mother of that child.

The murder was a plan devised by the 3 year olds' mother and Jamar Senior and I hope the prosecution proves this. It makes me sick when that woman fake cries about her daughter. And the defense calls it 'the brutal rape"... Yeah right.....I hope that woman gets exposed just as Jamar Senior is being exposed today......

I think Mr.Pinkney wanted greater details from his son and saught after them because he wanted to feel justified for what he knew he was about to do!

The tramatic death of a child often leaves a parent void of any emotion, especially during the first two years. Mr. Pinkney Sr. has experienced a double tragedy: the death of his daughter's innocence from which he was unable to protect her and the death of his son at his own hand. It's understandable that he would be basically emotionless less at this time. He did, however, show a split second of emotion when his girlfirend was relating his daughter's description of what had happened to her. Mr. Pinkney reached up and wiped the corner of his right eye. His eyebrows quickly went upward and together and there seemed to be some tearing of his eyes. I do believe that he simply "lost it" when he learned the full facts of what had happened. If only he had not carried a gun with him during such an emotional time, this child would most likely still be alive.

Sherry in Kentucky

Why did he have a gun on his person when he knew he was only going to his son's mother house (not to work or to a rental property)? Why did he threaten both Jamar jr's mother and aunt when they attempted to stop him? Why did he contact Koran right after he executed his son to let her know he took care of it (it being Jamar's death)? If he is no longer involved with Koran, why did she contact the insurance policy holder to see if Jamar Sr can collect on the policy he had on Jamar Jr.?

I believe the father has no remorse of what he has done and will do it all over again if given the chance. I also believe he would of executed anyone who intervened of his plan to "take care of it". The fact that he remembers only portions of the incident almost proves what the ladies testified about was true. He brutally beat his son, made him strip (to humiliate him) and then executed him to apease Koran for what happen to her daughter by his son.

He needs to be sentenced to life without the possiblity of parole!!!!! I wish the death penalty was allowed because that is what he truly deserve!!!!

What Pinkey Sr. did is terrible, but I really feel that he lost it at the time of the murder. He saw a PEDOPHILE attempting to violate his baby. Pinkey Jr, is a 15 year old young man wanting to have sex with a 3 year old Baby. No one know how long this have been going on before he actually had the nerve to go a step further. Eventually, he would have carried out the act perhaps on someone's child. The other terrific
part is that it' was his own son, attempting to have sex with his own sister. The average 15 year old wants to have sex with other 15 year old, not a BABY.The defense attorney should have requested the phone record of the mother when it was alledged that Pinkey Sr. called
the girlfriend saying "I took care of it" I take a strong issue with anyone
attempting to hurt a baby.

As a mother I never would have let things get as far as they did. He would of had to of killed me first. I would have taken my son to see a Dr that could have gotten to the truth. Maybe Mr. Pinkley realizes that what he did was wrong in every way. True he should have defended his daughter but there were other ways to do that. Looking at his eyes as he is on the witness stand I see a man that has nothing left to live for. He is not fighting for his life he is going through the motions.

What part of a large 15 year old messing with a three year old do you think is acceptable? If he wanted to play "doctor" and experiment, why not pick someone his own age? And why do so many of you assume that the little girl was lying when she said he molested her? Most three year olds I know do not have the capacity to lie about something like that. Let me tell you something right now, I have a three year old granddaughter and if I EVER heard that someone,even her half-brother was messing with her, I get him – then I'd get his mother for allowing it to happen.

To answer another question I've read here. The mother of that pervert would be the last person I wanted to talk to, except to tell her what I thought of how she was raising the monster.

I feel like the father snapped. the girlfiriend added to the stress but the father snapped and has know disassociate himself from all emotions. What would you have done if your three year old said somebody touched her. How would you react?

He had to take his gun off safety to shoot the child, he stated it was not in a holster.

The defense attorney for Mr. Pinkney just made a huge mistake in his closing by saying "There is no excuse for it". Isn't his excuse for shooting his son that he snapped? If his own lawyer says there is no excuse for it, why should the jury think there is an excuse for what he did???

This is clearly a premeditated murder and one he probably discussed with his girlfriend. This was all about how macho he was with his son who had hurt her daughter. He was the prince in shinning armor that would even sacrefice his son for her

i think he's lying that his son confessed of rape he's only saying that to justify killing his own son. If he snapped he would have shot him on the spot not beat him up stop to threaten the aunt soon as she made a move he would have shot her to cause his mind wasn't right strip him take him out side then listen to him plea for his life one last time then shot him. Where was his sons far trail, it seems to me his son is on trail now as much focus is being put on what he did or didn't do and Jamar Sr is the victim he just lost it. Whatever! this whole trail is making me angry.

my daughter is 13 now but when she was 3 she told me that one of her dads friends had put his stick in her private i couldnt think of anyhing else but makeing him and who ever was around at the time it happen pay i couldnt think stright tell something was done my plans was to kill him and her dad because her dad was supose to protect her by all means so i wanted everybody to pay now my daughter is still dealing with that is is on medicine to help her cope and she doesnt deal with her dad at all now she blames her dad for messing her life up.i also went threw it my self comeing up but no one ever believed us so i can say she is going to have a hard time.

I have a 15 year old son and a young daughter. If my husband found out that he raped or sexually assaulted our daughter, I would see him "lose it" and take justice in his own hands. As sad as it sounds, people do things out of anger that they regret for the rest of their lives. There has been people who have killed their child's molesters out of anger. I understand this was his own son, but maybe that's what made the news of the molestation/rape worse for the father. How many times have people said that they would "kill" anyone who would rape/molest their child. This is NOT an excuse for the killing, it shouldn't have happened, but I see how it happened.

For a boy of just 15 to act out a sex act it sounds to me that he might of been abused himeself or seen things things he should not have. I would have ask Mr. Pinkney Sr if he abused the boy as a child and killed his son as a way to cover the trackes so when the police did any talking to the boy, they could not ask him about his abuse by his father?

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Why was it not brought up the when the first ER DR. did his exam. tself could have left the abrasion the second Dr. found?

I think the prosecutor should have followed up on his taking of his gun to the home where his son was. I think she should have asked Jamar Sr., when he slept the night before the murder, did he sleep with his clothes on. If not did he sleep with the gun on. This could lay a foundation of when it was he put the gun on. This could help to show intent.

I agree with you Betty, I think the little girl's mother had a lot to do with what the father did.

How very sad that this "father" would let people think his son told him he had raped his little sister if he didn't actually say that to him. This boy is dead at the hands of his own dad,,if he did not say that to his father,,then this man is twice the monster that he already is.

I believe Ms. Cherry when she says Jamar Sr. was "pressured" from Caron. It's obvious Jamar Sr. & Caron "plotted" against Jamar Jr.
Even Pinkney's lawyer says Jamar Sr. "executed" his son. Pinkney acted like Caron wanted him to act. A gangster. Ignoring other options, he bowed down to the pressure. His decision made for him, he coldly beat and executed a child. His child! Maybe he did it because Caron might have said, "Step up and be a man. If you don't do it, I will!!" The stoic testimony of Jamar Sr. proves that he is playing his gangster role to the end. He thinks he's being a stand up guy for Caron by protecting her from a murder charge of her own. I think Caron used Jamar Sr. to do her dirty work. Isn't that exactly what Manson did?

I am 62 years old and I've been in the Army doing the Viet-Nam era and I've seen death and I've seen many many court trials when some has killed someone and I've never seen a man like this who has no feelings about what he has done, especially to his own and only son.

I have been crying through this testimony and I'm a man who has experienced death close up before. This is a sad situation and this man deserves to be beat to death or something worse, in the way I feel.

I know that they don't have the death penalty in MI, but I really wish they did for this man. I generally don't support the death penalty, but.I would like to see this man suffer until he realizes the horror of what he did when he killed his only son to try to get back with this woman...

why did Mr. Pinkney think without murdering his son? He could of forgive him... Why he didn't felt the guilt of killing his son?

I have been teary throughout this whole trial. How can you just take away your SONS life and sit up there like nothing happened. He feels as if he justified what happened to his daugther but we dont really know what happened to his daughter. There is not enough evidence to say that child was raped at all.He could have easly just walked out his sons life, but to take his life away in execution style is a heartless soul. He will have to answer to God but I feel no remorse for him at all!

no parent has the right to take justice in their own hands BUT- where were the authorities at the E.R. – were they (the authorities) not notified when a an "alleged crime" as been commit against a minor – especially aginst a young child. Also, why didn't the Aunt or Jamar Junior's mother call the police when the father started "beating" on her son . Again, no parent has the right to take justice into their own hands. He ( jamar Senior) was wrong, in all ways.

I truly believed that Jamar Sr. is truly disturbed, I watch him as he sits in the courtroom i see anger. It appears as though he has no remorse for taking his own son's life. That situation should been handle between Jamar Sr. and Jamar Jr's mother if indead Jr. molested his sister they should have saught counseling, I believed that if there was a charge I think Ms Ivey should be charge as well for her dislike for Jamar Jr. If anyone pushed Jamar Sr. to kill his son it was her.

I think the defense should have called a rep from Social Services to explain the safety mechanisms which would have immediately been put in place thereby keeping Jamar Jr. out of the volatile situation and also keeping Jamar Sr. from taking this rash action.

It's not fair that Mr. Pinkney gets to get on the stand and lie the way that he is. Ms. Ivey stated that she was concerned about her daughter, took her to the E.R, and had the dr. appt. for that day at 2pm. yet they dropped her off at daycare that day? Mr Pinkney also stated that he had already had his gone on himself when he went over to Lazette's house but I can strongly doubt that he carried a gun with him around his daughter whom HE dropped off at the daycare. And I am sure you are not allowed to bring a firearm into the daycare around other children anyways. So just think about that.

I wonder if Sr. has ever been molested?

He is clearly lying. He used the excuse of penetration to kill his son. I believe the little girls mother and him knew all along what was going to happen. But what kind of mother is the sons mother. There is no way anybody, not even my childs father, is going to come into my house, make my son strip naked, beat him senseless, and make him walk outside without me calling the cops and intervening. As soon as he pulled that gun out he would have to shoot me, because I would have jumped right in front of my son to protect him. There is something fishy going on. That man has no remorse for what he did.

WOW what a case. I don't know if Jr told his father what Sr says he told him re penitrating the 3yr old or if he told him what his mother says he did; since sr, jr and mom were the only ones present during this conversation it boils down to who the jury believes. The biggest question I have has to do with the 2 different findings from the 2 doctors who examined the child and the fact that the examination that found something took place the day AFTER the boy was killed. On the show yesterday the child's mother said she DID have a same day appointment for the child on the day jr was killed but she couldn't keep it because of what happened. Her appointment (she said) was for 2pm. She and sr took the child to day care and sr calls her several times AFTER he shot his son. According to the prosecutor the last time he called her was at 1;40 something and the first time he called was about 1;31 or there abouts to find out if she had picked up the child from day care. My question is if the child had a 2pm appointment why was she not at the dr's office. The testimony of the child's dr did not come across as truthful, he was laughing, saying the mother did not want him to question the child and the mother was spelling everything because she didn't want the child to know what she was telling him and they couldn't leave the child alone in the room. Most dr's offices have a nurse or someone they could have left the child with. It looks to me like this dr was used to try and backup the reason jr was killed. Sr never said he called the child's mother to see if she had picked her up from day care because she had an appointment to see another dr-he said he wanted to see the child. Now either the mother lied about the same day appointment OR she took the child to the dr the day before, reported the findings to sr and sr went to kill his son.

Hi, My 'take on all of this is; I wanted 2 n more about the relationship between Mr. pickney n his 'son". i feel this is important because attitude preceeds action . I also feel that Mr. pickney might have felt extreme anxiety in respect 2 the inability 2 deal with the fact that he might have an 'evil' child when it comes 2 this behavior . Persons who exhibit this behavior (moslestation of younger persons ) r never "cured" He might have felt that this incurable "problem" needed 2 b "dealt " with noe or it would result in harm 2 many other children. I have seen unterviews with pedalfiles that stated their behavior started at a young age n just got worse. I have heard many say they can't help it . Look at the growing problem this society has had in dealing with the problems

I believe this whole situation could have been avoided if the authorities would have been called from the beginning – it was wrong what he did but until you walk in his shoes you cannot say what you would or would not do, no one could be in their right mind and do this, Also with the comments being made in the peanut gallery I just hope the court and jury gives him a fair trial. I also agree that if it were my daughter I would not have waited two days to see her dr. something is not right there. Why did no one in the house try to stop him there were more of others then him.

All of those concerned about the baby – do you think in addition to the molestation it is right for the baby to carry the weight of her brother's execution as well for the rest of her life? That is why it is so horrible and cold blooded what this poor excuse for a father has done. He executed one child and brought grief and shame to the future of the other. Monique never tried to hide her son's wrongdoing. She recognized that something was clearly wrong and she wanted to get help for the entire family. Murder is not a remedy. I understand the rage Jamar Sr. was feeling. As a society we are all torn apart by these kind of cases. But to shoot your own child in the head? Jamar Sr. made a conscious decision to execute Jamar Jr. before he ever went to Monique's house. He did it to satisfy Karonne. As far as how the father is presenting himself on the stand – I think he wanted to testify because he thinks he can persuade the jury that his actions were somehow justified. He has expressed no remorse at all.

This is just awful, Mr Pinkney had more than enough time to step back into his self from that outer body experience he thought he had going on. I hope that he gets all he deserves 1st Degree MURDER. Then he can't have any-more out of body experiences with someone unable to protect themselves like his 15 year old Son, HE deserves the harshes punishment there is.

Jamar Jr. is not there to say that his father and Ms. Ivey is lying. He can't say that he didn't tell his father that. Not to minimize what he did but it was obviously not as much as the both of them are saying. Mr. Pinkney knew exeactly what he was about to do. He was already crying before he got over there so he had it made up in his mind that he needed to be punished, not sought help. He went over to Lazette's house to meet with Jamar face to face to get his final confession before he killed him.And he made sure that he got the answer that he wanted even when the evidence from the E.R. stated differently.

This may fly in the face of everyone else here, but I feel for the man. He just learned his son was a sexual predator who raped his 3 year old daughter. This is a man who had no criminal history, played by the rules, appears to have been stable. The women tried to brush off what Jr did to the little girl. I, for one, would not convict this man of murder. Manslaughter yes. I do not believe for a moment that he planned ahead of time to kill his son. As for his flat affect, this man is now feeling dead inside, and they have only mentioned one time that he is on medication since the event that is designed to keep him calm. The son was raised by a bunch of women that would have tried to excuse any behavior no matter how terrible for his whole life, helping him avoid consequences. The little girl seems lost in everyones sympathy. I would not vote for a murder conviction, and firmly believe that the man was temporarily insane

The snapped excuse doesn't fly. He already knew his daughter was still a virgin, He badgered his son into a false confession and excuted him. He getting a fairer trial then he gave his son.

Are some of you watching the same trial I am? The misstatements and conclusions some of you are drawing are nothing short of amazing.
1.The Mother of the girl DID take her daughter to the ER in a reasonable time after hearing the little girls complaints.
2.The ER DID notify DCFS after seeing the little girl.
3.And what in the World does "culture" have to do with this? Protecting ones young is instinct in every culture, animal and man.
4.He is sitting in front of the Defense table for security reasons. If you have been paying any kind of attention, you would have noticed that the families were seated in the last rows, with (in the first days of the Trial), the first rows vacant. Today, there are people in the second row that don't appear to be family members, but spectators. The police achieved the maximum distance between the gallary and defendent by placing him in front of the defense table, instead of behind it, up against the railing with his back to the hostile gallary. Odd, but evidently, necessary in this case.
5.To say this man clearly was molesting his own son.....as if it were some kind of fact......is well.......you are clearly a space-cadet. NOBODY has even intimated that anything like this was going on. Just makes me shake my head in wonder at these kinds of conclusions with nothing to back them up.
6.Most of InSessions own commentators quote the facts wrong. Yesterday, it was so bad that the boys mother had to call in to the show to defend herself, because they were quoting so many erroneous "facts". Disgusting. Shame on them. If they aren't going to actually watch the Trial....they shouldn't comment on it.

I will say that this Prosecutor makes me almost want to root for the
Defendent. I don't think I have ever watched anyone who was more offensive to ALL Witnesses...even her own....as she is. She makes me want to DEFEND them!!!! Does anyone else feel this way??? I was initially embarrassed when I realized that it was what I was feeling.

What a complete and total jerk she is. I wonder what her conviction rate is on cases that aren't slam-dunk and basically "unloseable" to begin with? If I were on one of her juries, I'm afraid she would have to prove a case beyond any and all doubt...not just "reasonable" doubt. I know that's wrong, but that's the affect she has on me.

It does appear that there are deeper psychological problems with the defendant, possibly guilt-because he had committed a similar act (or worse) at one time in his life. This was his way of washing his sins. Unfortunate-that with all of the medical help available-that these parents didn't educate the victim earlier. Teen boys go through alot of emotional changes in their early lives and -with all of the pornograpy available on the internet, etc. its inevitable that they will be confused and negatively effected. The defendant was not close to his son and used him as a whipping boy-instead of loving and educating him between right and wrong.

I really wanted some type of understanding as 2 the relationship between the mother, father, grandma, daughter ,son, I didn't get a sense of what type of child was Jamar . I bring this up because the mom "allowed" her SON 2 b brutalized , humilitated , Then shot . I also wondered was Jamar jr. a "bad seed" that had 2 b stopped?

Give the man a metal! He saved society from an animal. That animal will never rape another three year old thanks to Mr. Pinkney. The man took responsibility for the mistake he brought upon society by way of this animal and he has sacrificed everything to rid society of the animal. He deserves a reward for his sacrifice. Society will most likely punish him for his deed but his soul will surely be rewarded.

I could not believe it when my mom told me about this story. I have never heard anything like this in my life. Since I heard about this I have constantly been asking myself how a grown man could make his own son get on his knees and beg for his life and then shoot his SON in the face and end his life. People are suppost to look at America as a wonderful, free, amazing country, but who would envy a country where men are brutally killing their own children. It appears to me that this man is a duranged psychopath. To be quite honest he does not deserve to have the privelage of waking up every morning. He needs to be given the worst punishment possible. That boy relied on his father to love and protect him. But in his last dying breath he was begging his father not to kill him. It really is a pittiful situation.

Why didn't the family members who were present before the shooting happened call the police when the father came.

I believe this judge has been biased from day 1!

He's allows so much from the prosecutor (hear say, leading, her inappropriate conduct, cutting witness off, etc, etc, etc!)

By no means do I condone what Sr. did to Jr., and there should definitely be consequences he pays; however, I hope the jury is
savvy enough to pick up all this non-sense from the judge and the prosecutor both! I can see that some of the in-session legal guests have picked up on the inappropriate behavior going on–good catch.

Our justice system is so-called set up for everyone to have a fair trial–yes, even those who kill.

You can tell by some of the ignorant statements made by viewersthat this judge's behavior/rulings have made a negative impact
on the on-lookers. It's too bad to have people like that in such an important seat.

May God help Jr.'s family get through this tragedy, but don't forget may God also help the other family get through theirs as well (a molested 3-yr-old!).
And it doesn't really matter if it was "humping" or "penetration." Sexual assault is a violation on any and all levels!!!!! How dare the prosecutor down play that!

It is a shame that Jamar Pinckney Sr. and the mother of the three year old girl cannot suffer the same fate that they served up to Jamar Jr. I believe that it was a cold-blooded, planned execution and they are both complicant in it.

i think anyone on this message board thats rooting for this man is as sick as he is. not only did he kill his son he has no remorse what so ever about doin it. dry humping is far from rape! no one heard this so called confession but the dad come on! then they called the next day bout the insurance policy. no one at the er seen any sign of this but after the man killed his son thet found something. please sit and watch the same trial i am. the boy was 15 years old not a 35-40year old man sexually abusing children they could hanve got help and for anyone to say that child was an animal is animal theirselves!!!!

This murder was planned!!!!!!!!He is a cold blooded murder. I believe there was noooooooooo Rape. Karran is in the middle of this whole thing she needs to be brought up on charges also I believe she was in on the murder she is a green eye monster. Death is to good for him he needs to suffer every day!!!!!!!!!

I'm wondering if Jamar Jr. wasn't the biological son of Jamar Sr. He seems so cold and callous about killing this young man. This could account for his lack of remorse.

? How did he go from a normal situation that was controlled,clam 2 leaving 2 get a toothbrush,brushing his teeth 2 betting,undressing his son?2 a cold blooded exeuction.I belive that the mother of the little grl played a big part of his decision in what happened! she should also be charged in the crime i think she egged it on.Also i belive he had made up his mind piror 2 him going because if not why would u take a gun 2 see your son when it did not require u 2 carry in your work? One more thing u got up that moring,didn't brush your teeth at home left and went 2 your other baby mother's home didn't brush your teeth left no 1 know 's what happened in between,make it 2 your son's home talk', decide 2 go to your car come back,ask 2 brush your teeth i beleve he went out there 2 get the gun then.I say fry him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im thinking for this man to do something so horrible he had to of had a tramatic incident happen to him....does anyone know if he was a victim of child molestation? Maybe thats why he went into such a rage....flash backs of what might have happened to him?

I believe that Jamar pinkney Sr is a dead man walking, well at least he should be. during his testimony there was no emotion showed at all. How can you sit there and tstify to such a vicious crime and not cry about it? I know I couldn't. How was his relationship with his son. And yes I believe that he basically did choose his daughter over his son. Not that his daughter is not a victim but now she is even more of a victim because her daddy just destroyed her whole family. I think that prosecution is doing a great job especially with her closing arguments. I definitley could not keep my eyes dry. My condolences and prayers go out to both sides of this family but as far as Jamar Pinkeny Sr goes, I have no remorse for him at all.

I believe mister Pinkney was waiting for results of his daughters medical exzamination so he could play judge and jury and kill his son!!! What other reason would he bring a gun? He validated it by saying he had no experience with these matters before. Lot's of people go through this kind of thing and they don't kill there child. They let the police do there job's. ( Because this is the US and not Iran !!!! )

this man and his daughters mother should both get death , she was the one who started the whole ball running, due to the fact that she was jealous of this mans relationship with his son, a 3 yrs. old child would not have said what she said about her brother, without her mother putting words in her mouth, this i truly believe, she is as much to blame as he is

It's a tragic situation. The fact remains that a father went to "get information" from his son with a gun. No one, including Pickney Sr., could have expected any good to come from that incounter.

there is absolutely no excuse I can imagine to shoot your own child and I have no Sympathy for this guy and frankly I don't think he wants any sympathy.
In the spirit of everyone deserves a fair trial and competent representation....Why were no psychologists or other expert testimony provided by the defense to support that someone could "Snap" as they claim?
If I were the attorney I would be doing everything that I could to convince the jury that it is clinically possible for someone to "Snap" and not be able to control themselves.

A family friend molested a family member, this family member grows up and molested another family member. The family knew about it yet no one did anything about it because of fear of people finding out.

I understand the father being emotionless. Everybody can talk about what they would have done but in reality do you know what you would have done if it was your three year old.

This is one of the sickest acts I've ever heard of. I tremble inside just thinking about how cruel that "sperm donor" to that child. He treated him and executed him as though he was a rabid dog. Michigan should have the death penalty or create one just for him.

I believe that both the father and the little girls mother, planned this murder... Its crazy that he shows no emotions! I believe the lack of emotions is just a strategic plot, that him and his attorney put together. him and his youngest child's mother both were trying to talk around certain questions. Trying to answer the questions to work in their favor. After this case I think the boys mother should file a wrongful death suit against the girls mother. They both need to go to jail...

I believe that many are losing sight of the nature of this crime. True enough, it was his son, but his daughter was also raped. His son vould have committed this crime against someone else's child. Nine out oif ten of you would be saying that he deserves the stongest sentence that the law would allow.

As the DA stated, he could have been the next Astronaut, Doctor, etc. However, he could have also been the next serial rapist. I believe the father is remorseful and would have taken this action against anyone who harmed either of his children. I believe he absolutely lost site of the fact that it was "his son" who had committed such a crime against his own sister, a three-year old. I don't believe he saw his son at the time of the shooting. He saw a "predator".

It's not okay what the father did, but he may have also saved your son or daughter from being his son's next victim.

GOD will deal with Mr. Pinkney.

I hope I am not behind him at the "Pearly Gates", as GOD will be speaking a long time to Mr. Pinkney!

I do not agree with the placing of Mr. Pinkney and the empty chair representing Jamar Jr. This trial should be appealed..

This man is sick, if he doesnt get the death sentence then someone will kill him in prison! There are so many people in prison who wish they could see their child.

When I began watching the coverage of this trial, I assumed that this was not this mans biological son because before I heard any of the names, I heard that Jamar Jr was the three year olds half brother. I felt that since this was not his son, it was not hard for him to commit the crime since it was not his child. But as I watched more of the story and found out that it was his son, I couldnt believe it! How could a man, not only kill a child, but kill his own in cold blood! I dont think it was premeditated at all. A person must be out of their mind to do such a terrible thing to their OWN child. I feel that he has the demeanor he does because he knows what he did at that time was out of anger, disgust and vengeance for his daughter and now he knows he cant go back and change it and has to own up for what he did. I dont think he cares what happens to him at this point and doesnt want the jury to feel any sympathy for him because he has to own up to what he did.

This man has no soul. I thought he would want to help his son, not kill him. I heard some say that he is being medicated and that's why he's not reacting to anything. I don't care what medication they are giving him, there would still be some type of emotion shown. This man is just cold.

It is a shame that a Father will take his own son's life for no reason. There were other options he could have taken such as pressing charges, therapy, or a good old spanking. I also think that the little girl mother had alot to do with his decision. The bottom line is that Jamar Jr is in God hands and Jamar Sr will rot in hell for killing is blood charge. I hope he never sees the light day for the rest of his life.

This was definitely premeditated. How could you just go and shoot your only son in the back of the head with no hesitation. He thought about this for a while.

I was amazed to see Sr. on the witness stand and show absolutely no emotion when describing the senseless murder of his first born. Too humiliate him by asking him to remove his clothes and kneel was animalistic. Yes, what the child did should not be condoned, as a responsible parent, Sr. should have gotten both children the help they needed. Sr. will forever have to live with his conscious...if he has one.

It was a briliant move on the prosecuters side to put the emtpy chair next to his......hopefully it will not be grounds for an appeal.

I believe that this man DID NOT pre-meditate this, Pinkney obviously really did snap. Now he really is emotionally empty. This was a good man whom had a pretty sucessful life, he didnt go to that house to kill his only son!!! He deserves a RETRIAL so many things are so wrong about this court room! This judge NEEDS to do his JOB!! VERY UNFAIR

I wanna just say that, Ithink koran ivey should be on trial for conspiracy ,behind the testimony of the witness who said he called and said " it's taken care of ",moreover everyonekeeps saying he has no emotion, but i think he does resent,and contempt,like he was justified...and society is wrong for trying him

Why does the prosecutor ignore the fact that Sr. likely went to the car to retrieve the gun and then to the bathroom to load and prepare it for the execution? I think that is what happened and THAT speaks to premeditation.

If i was a prosecutor....i would ask him why it wasnt equally important for him to get help for his son...he took his daughter to seek help he showed compasion for her but the only thing he states for his son is " i wanted details...i came to the house to get details...he never stated he wanted to help his son...he planned to come and kill him he just didnt have the heart he went into his car drank liquid courage(alcohol) came in to brush off the evidence and fullfilled the mission to kill...he had no love in his heart for him he never intended to help him.... he choose the side of his daughter of his son they had different values to him once the dr...said his daughter was ok that wasnt good enough for him or karronne they decided he was worthy to live...he killed him walked away didnt see if he living instead he called karrone and went to see his daughter wow if the jury cant see the division and she an accessory and i hope they find him gulity of 1st degree murder...this inspires me to become a prosecutor im on the edge of my sit questioning him...omg

Pinkney Sr. needs the chair!My heart goes out to the mother and grandmother.I feel the grief in Jamar Jr. family.God Bless

Why did'nt he just get him the help that he needed because at the end of the day this was also just a child and his child at that. His action was selfish and cruel and he deserves to go to prison with no chance of getting out because Jamar Jr does not get a chance to make his wrong right because dad had to "Take care of that". Don't be surprised WHEN we find out baby momma knew what was about to go down. My heart goes out to the little sister for what she had to experience but she has a chance to do something her brother won't and that's grow and move on provided her mother gets her the proper help dad decide big bro did'nt even deserve to get help. God bless

As horrible as this is I hope the good that will come out of it is that parents will have the "sex" talk with their children concerning experimenting. Jamar Jr. did not have to die but I do not feel like anyone did anything most of us would not do in the same situation, except the murder of the teen.

I feel sorry for Jamar Sr., he did what he did knowing his life would also be over, now his daughter will grow up with the knowledge that something she said ended her brothers life and her life with her father, she has no blame for any of this, this child was/is a victim.

The man without emotion is also a victim. I would say that with the knowledge he had from his family and Jamar Jr. he knew once they went to the police his son's fate would have been sealed as a pedophile, something Jamar Jr. (and family) would have lived with the rest of his life. Maybe in his heart he thought this was the answer, I don't know.

his testimony gives me chills. he is a worth-less heart-less man. i dont think he snapped, i think he felt like the statement was said, "he handle that". why didn't the father let the law handle it verses him taking his own child life.

I have followed many jury trials on In Session, but only this one has managed to bring me to tears! Everyone in this case has lost something or someone.

The fact that SR went to his grandmother's house and had time to sleep it off and re-think things and DID NOT for the good, says that he is heartless and deserves the max punishment! It's very sad, a true love of a father wouldn't loose control and kill his own son! May God forgive him!

I am sorry if the mother had time to yell at Jamar Sr. then why couldnt she call 911? If it was me I would have ran up to him and saved my son and let him shoot me. I feel the mother should be charged as well due to the circumstances of her knowing and why didnt she do something about this before Jamar Sr. could do anything to his son. I feel he went into some kind of rage and when your mind is in that type of rage you do not have any idea what your doing. Also I feel the reason for no emotion is he is still in shock along with there should have been a psychologist and/or psychiatrist to testify in his defense. This is not premediated. Come on society today what honestly would you do in a situation like this? I am not saying he shoould go free but serve sometime in a mental facility along with the mother of Jamar Jr. Think about it people.
Barbara Basso kissimmee, FL

Jamar Sr. beat, stripped him naked, & killed him & Jamar Jr's mother is being blamed. i don't understand,She did try to stop him HE HAD A GUN. I don't think any mother would dream the dad would actually kill his own son. I am a mother & would die for my kids but this happened very fast fromthe time the beating started. I can't think of anything worse than this mother experienced. You can say what you would do but you were not there. I think think his daughter's mother is also responsible, she wasn't going to settle for anything less & the insurance money was just a bonus. She is as heartless & cold hearted as he is.

Jarmar Sr. knew exactly what he was doing. First rule of thumb when you own a gun, NEVER aim a loaded gun unless you intend to shoot.
If Larmar Sr. was afraid he would" loose it",leave the bullets in the car.

I would like to state this although I feel that this crime is stupid. I can see a reason why he could snap. We can see that he shows no emotions or anything like that. I if was probably anyone else they would probably do tje same thing. Maybe he was thinking what if my child grows up to become a rapist or if my daughter will do the same thing to someone else. Per her parents she started acting out. Remember kids at that age will try to figure out thishappen to me. This little girl will have to remember this for the rest of her life. I think there is no real solution here. No matter how you look at it no one wins. Just maybe because there seems to be bad blood between the mothers and the father is in between, could it be that the son really said what the father stated and that the mother would want to protect her son just like any other mother. sometimes as the father stated we really don't want to hear that your child at 15 would be lable as a rapist oe have to register as a sex offender at such an early age. If they know that he has a gun with him at all times then why not call the police. If he ststed that he pulled down her pants I feel why would he stop there if no one is watching.

I am in NO way attempting to blame the mother but I am a mother of a son and a daughter. So I feel for both sides however, even though my son is now 29 years old and twice my size I would stand between anyone with a gun and my son. I feel for the mother (and everyone involved) but I havent heard this be brought up. Could the mother have shoved the father? Tripped him? Anything to delay the shot!! There will be no winners in this case-even the 3 year old will be damaged for life. I pray the family shelters her for life about what happened to her older brother!!

His kid or nt sumthings u cant excuse His son was not mentally retared hadnt been abused ..Would it hav made alot ov u feel better if he had caught his son 3 yrs later still raping the sister jus cuz 1 doc didnt see sumthin doesnt mean it wasnt there my kid had sumthin missed diagonsed by 1 doc who couldnt see sumthin. No it doesnt make it rite that he killed his son bt u ask any person whose kid has been either raped and murdered or raped and left for dead bt alive now u ask any 1 ov them if they had 1 chance or a 2 second head start on there childs rapist what they would have done!!!! Do u really think he would ve stopped there wit her.....??? Sorry the Daddy is a human !!! Life wit out . nuttin more!!!

My heartn goes out to mother of this 15 year child. He was violently taken from this earth. I admit that what he did was wrong but, he admitted to it and needed help NOT TO BE KILLED by his "father". You are in my prayers as you face living without your child. ,Second, the mother of the little girl that was "humped" I pray for you and your daughter. Thirdly, this man will live with memory of seeing his son shot dead by him for the rest of his life. If there is anything that I feel for this man it is pity. This man does not have control of his own mental state and should be put away where he cannot harm anyone ever again.

mr. pinkley is guity as charge, i dont think he love his son as much as his daughter and he let the mother of the girl talk him in to murdering his first born child, this just goes to show the end of time is near, father against son mother and daughter against each other the whole world is going crazy, my prayer to the boys mother may god be with her.

It's true everybody reacts differently to a given situation but it is what it is. The man used a gun to execute his son. It is murder in the first. There is no sugar coating it. This is what this country is coming to, murder someone in cold blood, have the experts sugar coat it into something its not.

This is an interesting trial to watch for the actions of the attorneys. I don't think that the defense did a good job explaining how the father "snapped' or had an out of body experience.

Too many people use this defense when they were just plain old mad as hell and out of control. The father should be held accountable for this death because he brought the gun with him.

That shows intent of some type. There would be no good reason for him to bring his gun to talk to his son. I wonder if they checked to see if the father had any drugs of some type in his system at such an early hour?

Very sad situation where no one wins. This one is all about justice and accountability.

I can't agree with what Jamar did because these are his children he is talking about, but showed which one he did love, and we see it wasn't Jamar Jr. I think Jamar Sr. is a cold hearted killer. I have been watching this case day in and day out, and I truly don't believe he is sorry for what he did to his own child. He has no emotions because he is not sorry. It seems like Jamar Sr., and his daughter's mother talk about this situation, and what he was going to do, just from the details in the case and how Karrine answered the questions. Also how she didn't take the daughter to the doctor, once Jamar met her at the little girl's school. I think Jamar Sr. needs tofound of first degree murder and nothing less, and receive the death penalty.

I am praying for everyone who has been impacted by this case, as well as Sr. He may have been wrong in his actions, but he will have to live with what he has done for the rest of his life. As well as deal with the fact that his young daughter had to endure what she did at such a young age. She is merely a baby and I believe that had he reacted this way if someone other than his son would have committed this act that people would have considered it justified. It's because this was his son that people are so disturbed about it. As far as his demeanor during his testimony is concerned, he will have many many nights to cry and think about what he has done when he is sentenced.

So LIFE changing in all aspects & perspectives!!! The decision he choose was certainly greater then himself & everyone involvled!!
Had the entire family only ran and got professional help< I know this is hindsight but to turn everyone's WORLD UPSIDE-DOWN!!!!!!!
vs being in the predicament that he placed everyone today is vastly convultled to say the least!

how can anyone that killed their children call them self a parent, my feeling is my prayer are with the jamar jr. mother and family, and the lil sister i feel the father should got his son some help and really find out what made him do this, and be there for his son instead he betray his son trust, my prayer will be for everyone at this point.

This is one of the worst and sad case I have ever heard of. This have really touch my heart deeply every since I have been watching this case.I don't know what to say but one thing for sure I know that God know's about it all and at the end the father will be judge and punish to the fulliest and so will the mother of the little girl, if she did anything wrong, If the little girl was raped in which I am not sure of my heart goes out to the child but something just don't fell right about the girl's mother. I just hope that nothing was plotted by the girl's mother to cause the father to take this young boy life. My heart goes out to Jamar Jr family. I can't even imagine the terror the family went through.

i am so angry at this man for killing his own flesh and blood his own son why did they let him beat this child like that then he had enough time to take the child outside and kill him where are the cops if it were me in this situation he would have to kill me first the min he started beating my child the cops would have been called the min he tells my child to take his pants off or his shirt the cops would be call they gave him too much time god i cant understand how this happend so fast may god have mercy on his soul cause he showed no mercy for his own child

Jamar Pinkney Sr. continued to call his son a coward, yet he was the
coward in the whole tragic situation. He went to the car to retrieve
a gun because he knew that there were three women in that house
that would have defended Jamar Jr. if Jamar Sr.did not have a gun.
He saw the mother, aunt, and friend in the house and he knew he couldn't beat all three of them ,so he said he was going to his car.
What father would take a "glock" to have a conversation with a fifteen year old child? He was not working at the post office that day and it was apparent that he would not be checking on his houses.
How can a father watch his son lying naked and bleeding in the
field and not call 911 to get some emergency help?
You don't shoot a dog the way he shot his son and then simply walked away without any remorse. What a senseless killing of a young child who made a terrible mistake.

I feel this is a horrendous crime. I feel no pity for the father. I don't believe he had an out of body experience. I feel the act was cold and calculated. I also feel he was trying to impress the little girl's mother. Death should be his ending place.

Jamar Sr. is cold and calculting enough to continue to maintain that his son "raped" his daughter even though the examination conducted prior to his shooting his son showed no such evidence. He is also so cold as to portray his son as a rapist even though the evidence and other family members' statements don't support the charge. That's cold and very calculating.

there are more things going on than meets the eye here,where did this 3 YEAR-OLD GIRL,learn these vulgar motions and language from?

I think Jamar Sr. has shown emotion....maybe not in the way everybody wants him to. He knows his life will never be the same again. I feel sorry for him. I would never want to be put in a position where I found out my son had molested my daughter in any way. The Prosecutor stated that "Jamar Jr." could have grown up to become maybe an Astronaut....maybe she should have thought about him growing up to become a Pedophile.

I would like to know why Jamar Sr. has to be seated in front of the table of his Attorney. And that empty chair in front of the Prosecution.....Is this a FAIR TRIAL for him to the Jury. I have never seen anything like this before.

I think Jamar Pinkney Sr. is the WORST.!!! When you can do something like this it means he never really loved Jamar Jr. Jamar Sr. is such a cold man I think that is why he has spent most of his life with his grandparents. he is definately someone only a mother could love. I do not believe the baby's peditrician Dr. Brosuer, when he said a day after the murder when he examined the baby, that the baby had a healing laceration in her vagina. He was just trying to give the parents an excuse to be used for the murder of Jamar Jr. Dr. Brosuer seems to have been unstable himself, I didn't believe a thing he said. I believed the ER physician. When the parents told the ER doctor the child was not going to be around the abuser again, without saying to the Dr that the abuser was the child's brother, Jamar Sr know exactly what he was going to do. KILL HIM!!!!!!!!

This is indeed a very tradic event. something has crossed my mind though. Could it be that maybe the father raped his own daughter aswell in the presents of his son which made his son think its ok? He probably killed his son thinking he was going to say "well daddy does it!"

no one can say what they would do if faced with this situation but I would have died that day with my son. why didnt the mother stop this from happening? she was more worried about protacting herself, she should be on trial as well. no one was outside protecting this boy, how could they all live with themselves for doing nothing. I also belive sr just snapped like he stated. it was not a concious choice between the two children, you can see he just snapped by the way he jumped up and started hitting jr, that is a snap reaction. still that mother did nothing, I would have been in the middle of them both. where was she when jr was made to strip? plain and simple she did not protect her son,

I believe that the posibility strongly exsists, that the son never did rape or molest in that way his sister, i think the truth was told when he told his father and his x girlfriend that he did not do anything. i thik he laid on her and did a "hump" like a dog would do to a leg, i do not believe there was any penetration. I believe the little girl was coached by her mother and exagerated what had happened. i believe the minor abraision was accidently self inflicted by the little girl. i believe jr. confessd to wrong doing but not to what they were directly accusing him of. only a minor farcical reenactment. of said event. i believe sr. killed his son with premeditation, i believe he should rot in jail. and i think it was done to a mostly innocent ignorant son.

This case was horrifying. To watch the countless people who loved both Jamar Jr. and Sr. to get on the witness stand and cry because of their losses was difficult to watch. There is no actual proof that Jamar Jr. ever molested his sister, yet the Sr. first said "you are no longer my son" when talking to him on the phone and then shot him the next day.
To be 15, naked, beaten and begging for your life from your own father with a loaded gun in your face in front of your family must have been an unimaginable way to go. May that poor boy rest in peace in the arms of the Lord. Jamar Sr. should have to spend the rest of his life in prison, but worse than that, he will have a higher power to answer to for the impulsive murder of his own flesh and blood.

I say Jamar Pinkney Sr. is a very cold hearted man to be able to kill his son and show no remorse. I can understand he was very upset with supposely accusation on raping his three year old daughter. He could have wipe his butt and explained to him that it was wrong and very unaccetable. Then the father should have got some kind of help for his son, not beat him crazy and then kill him like this is the solution. I say throw the book at the father, that was so wrong what he did to his son. His son probably needed some help, not death. Jamar Pinkney believes he should get off, because it was an out of body experience. He deserves the death penalty or rot in jail.

I have been watching this trial from the beginning. Twice I have seen the mother of Jamar Jr, once in court on the stand and once out of court on TV, tell her account of the last moments of her son's life. Both times she seemed to be saying that he was shot in the back of the head. The M.E. clearly stated for the court and showed diagrams of the entry wound on the face of the boy, with no exit wound at all. I am surprised, with every facet of this case discussed at such great lengths, why was there no mention of this discrepancy? Especially in the courtroom. I have seen another comment here on the same issue so I am not the only one having these thoughts.

i remember when someone ask his lawyer on the phone Why didn't the sane father Not insane nut call someone when he relaize what he had done. And his crazy lawyer said that he new the child was died and it really didn't matter after the fact or something like that. So if he snapped he was out of his mind so when his mind returned he should have done any and everything to help his son. This was a planned act by his ugly girldfriend ( pipie long stocking) with the pink weave. And the so call daddy.

SHAME on Jamar Pinkney Jr's mother, for down playing the sexual abuse!! She acts like it's no big deal to say " I humped her"

John just because you bring someone into this world does not give you the right to take them back out! Your so wrong. Why can't we just take you out?

He is a cold-blooded coward and deserves the electric chair, He did not "snapped" and knew exactly what he was going to do to his own "son", that's why he brought a gun with him. Its a shame before GOD. Jamar Pinkney Sr, "you are a coward, coward, coward". My heart goes out to this entire family, especially both mothers.

" maybe the young boy ( pinkney junior ) saw his dad with many women...having babies...and that might have told the boy...that he could just do anything he wants....when he felt the sexual feelings come over him...in that case...pinkney senior is really guilty of murder, and being a very bad roll-model...and the women who were willing to lay with this man....are also guilty....because they wanted the good life...and did not try to marry their babies daddy...so senior pinkney was left to bed-hop...and humping women...anywhere, anytime"

I trust Pikney Sr. I'M A dad of teen son (by late wife) and now have a 2 yr old girl (new wife) and like Pikney I'M from Detroit area (aged 41)
I do not think the prosecutor is doing a good job – she's losing points in my opinion. I'd give Pikney 2 yrs max for * assault w/ a weapon, resulting in demise while temporarily insane.*
I'd rather do the same to my son and have him gone than to live in prison as a child-sex abuser then live forever in life as a registered offender.

Pikney's NOT suppose to show emotion. # 1. Brothers don't cry in public, as a child growing up in Detroit 1980's I would get my BUTT Kicked if I cried about anything family tragedy or otherwise.

# 2. if he did show emotion most people would claim its "fake tears".

well i am going 2 say this he is a cold heart men shot his son in the face . jr like like did not know him i belive he should been put 2 death he is not god . i would ask him why you take life insure on your son and the mom did not know about? and how come the baby gril mom know a about it? plus she wait 2 take 2 the doc? mr pinkeysr know he was going 2 killer jr he had all the time in the word 2 cold off he went 2 the school meet his baby garil mom call his son mom ask her did jr going 2 school she said no nothing chage from from 1'20 jr call back at 3;00 say i am sorry mr.pinkey have time 2 cool off but he go too the house with the gun on him told jr take all his close he could stop him did not make go outside in the feild and shot him in the face he chose his baby garil over his frist born his love his his little more he love is son he is not a men when he put out gun ,

I think he should be put to death, I have two daughters that have been molested by their brother who was 19 at the time and they were 10 and 7 and I still did not kill my son, I let the law handle it and got my dauthers professional help. This man is a cold hearted killer and should be put to death right away!! Ren'ee.

Let me start by saying no body has the right to take another persons life. At the same time I don't think that he was cold about it at all. He showed enough emotion for a person who is known to show none at all so I hear throughout the trial. I feel like in my opinion nobody would know how to act if they found that theyre 3 yr. old daughter was molested by her teenage brother.

Things could have been done on both parts. You can't say what should have been done or what shouldn't have happened because that is a very difficult situation to deal with. He should do his time for taking a life but at the same time it should also be taking to concern that is daughter could be emotionally destroyed from what allegedly happened.

So instead of it just being looked at as a murder it should be looked at from that little girls point of view and how she might feel. A little toddler might have lost all of her childhood and a father reacted and should pay the price but at the same time looked at as a father in scorn because we all would be if we heard the news he allegedly heard that present day from his son.

This is soooooo unbelieveable for me, here I lost a son, then I a see that a father has taken his own sons life. For the love of God, what is going on in the world today? Lord Bless the Mother Lazette Cherry

I think that this man has showed no remorse about dealing with the death of his own son i have been following the trial and there was nothing saying that the 15 year old son as raped are molested his little sister it's really a shame

The lack of emotion from Pinkney Sr. is not about the disregard of his actions but a disregard for his future. I believe he has emotionally shut down and doesnt care about his future at this point. It is possible. also his lawyer did state he was on medication. Im only stating that because someone today on tv mentioned it looked like he was sedated. And if he is on medication like the lawyer stated and he is having problems getting Mr. Pinkney to show emotion than why not adjust his medication?

In viewing the direct and cross by Mr. Pinkney he didn't express any remorse for his action. I'm sadden for the family. I fell that the blows to his son face was enough punishment and it should have ended there. The son asked for forgiveness and to me it was his way of asking for help. I understand that Mr. Pinkney may have been upset but their comes a time where you have to take a step back and cool down.

Jamar Sr. is not getting a fair trail!
why is he sitting up front in the courtroom
Eventhough, Jr. is dead the empty chair should not be placed up front as though the child is equal to his father Jr. a father always lead.
No one should acusse him of commiting this act because of the baby's mom, he did it out love for his children and that love brought mixed emotions , over powering emotions.

The fact that he picked up his gun to go "talk to his" is very poignent. Who does that without murderous thought behind it?

The man shows no emotions in court whatsoever, not for what happened to his daughter and certainly not for shooting his son point blank in the face! This was a premeditated and cold-hearted killing! As for the rest of the family that was there at the time – SHAME on them for not stopping this violence and getting involved during the beating! If they had gotten involved, tried to stop it, and called 911 – Jamar Jr. may just be alive today and have been able to be turned in and have counseling. So much for telling the truth to your parent........................

This man is guilty as charged and his lawyers are trying to argue manslaughter but a person that goes with a gun has his son get naked takes him to the front yard and shoots him execution style deserves to be executed the same way

I think that Jamar sr. is keeping his cool because he wants the jury to convict him. I see emotion being held back, because he knows now what he knew when he did it and that is that it is was wrong. He knew he was taking a gun to kill his son and he knew he would be punished for it. He was choosing between his son and his daughter, a choice in reality he should have never made! My heart goes out to Jamar Jr.'s mom, I am in tears watching this, and sickened that instead of trying to get his son the help he so needed, he tortured and murdered his son. I always tell my children that if they tell the truth about what they did, they will still have consequences, but a lesser consequence. That no matter what, you always tell the truth. That child and yes he is a child, his brain not even fully developed, told the truth and he got no leniency for it. He got no opportunity to learn from his mistake or right his wrong. So i don't think Jamar Sr. an adult should get that either.

I think the prosecution was remiss in their closing arguments in trying to prove premeditation by not commenting furher on the gun. Jamal Sr said he did not have the gun on him on Sunday night when he went to the hospital. He also said that he could not carry a gun while working for the US Post Office. This means that at some time Monday morning before confronting Jamal Jr,. he knowingly took his gun, unholstered, and put it in the waistband of his pants

During the time that Sr is beating Jr and having him take off his clothes, why didn't one of the four women in the house, call the police for intervention? There was a period of about 20-30 minutes. This boys life could have been saved. Just having a gun pointed at anyone in the house was reason enough to call for help.

I don't find Jamar Sr. emotionless and cold. On the contrary, I think his demeaner is consistent with someone who has undergone a severe traumatic event. People express emotions in different ways.
I do think Karonne (His daughter's mother) may have inadvertently escalated the situation to a murderous conclusion by wanting to press charges, and by her extreme emotional state (Which is totally understandable), but since she was the person that he was in constant contact with after the molestation, there was no voice of reason (I wish he had spoken to his grandmother). Maybe then Jamar Sr. would not have lost control of his emotions, and the situation may have ended differently. I feel so bad for all of those involved. Jamar Jr.'s mother is so pathetic as she repeatedly reenacts the scene of her son's death. I only hope she can one day stop playing the scene over and over in reality and in her mind. I feel bad for all of them.

Just reviewing some of the testimony from Jr.s mother. What was she doing in bed with him at 1:30 in the morning? Per her own words, "he woke up and told me that he had done it." Maybe that's a clue as to what was going on with him. I'm surprised the defense attorney didn't pick up on that. Why was she getting in touch with the girls mother? Did she want her not to tell what a monster her son was?

Another thing, why are all the pictures of this boy taken when he was about 8? Why not some that show how large he was? (Other testimony that he was at least 170 pounds.

Don't blame the little girls mother for being angry at what Jr. did. THERE IS NO EXCUSE for molesting a three year old -especially if she's your sister.

i just want to know if the little girl mother is going to be charged as well. they planned it together and they should be charge together. what type of mom would talk to a man who killed his own son / jr .

That goes to show what a lie can do. You tell 1 lie, then you have to tell another lie, to cover up the first lie. All this and Jamar Jr. never had a chance. I hope Karone Ivey never have any peace again, every thing was well between this father & son until she got in the picture. I don't beleive Jr,rape this little girl, not once did I hear of any evidence or proof,this child would have been bleeding, this child would have been screaming, that would have woke grandma & grand dad up, nothing. To Sr. how dare you you didn't snap you had to prove to Karone your man hood, look where it got you, little girl is going to be callin someone else dad, r u gonna shoot him too. I hope you will remain a dead man walking the rest of your life, Karone somewhere you gonna get yours from God.

I have been following this trial,And i feel this man knew what he was doing.Far as the son if he did do what they say he did kids only do what they see or what has been done to them.Has anyone asked that question.Any one that has snaped or had a moment out of body can not tell in detail what they have done.

i just can not understand this . the father could not have been in his right mind ! at some point wouldnt the screams from the mother or jamar jr begging for his life have snapped jamar sr out of it . my heart goes out to the family . some deaths are a shame and could have been avoided.

I feel that if they thought that the little girl was raped, then why didnt they call 911. And I dont understand how a 3yr old could remember all the details word from word that just dont make any sense. Even If Jamar did do something to his sister that dont give the father the right to play God and kill that baby. The father didnt care about his son only the little girl, so in my opinion I felt like the father could`ve went about everything a different way . My heart goes out to jamars family. I do understand the way a father protects his daughter but who protected the little boy. To me the father was very HEARTLESS. It made me die inside as a parent myself to think that a father would do anything like that to is own child. I HOPE HE FRY IN JAIL. He didnt care abouthis child why should anyone care about him. somebody should make him strip and shoot him in the head.

I am currently experiencing a similar situation; however the perp is my daughter's own father. We are preparing for a rape trial at the end of the month. She is now 14 but the abuse happened from age 7 to 12. This is one of t he hardest things I ever had to experience and I hope no one else has to make the decision to file charges for sex abuse. I believe in our justice system mostly from watching live coverage on tru-tv. I know it will be fair and just and I can continue to stand by my child and not be behind bars for taking the law into my own hands.

Jamar Sr. says he snapped after Jr. told him he actually did penatrate his daughter..I think he was already mad and got madder after Jr.kept repeating the same thing(not admitting to anything other than "humping")Rememeber that second doctor told them that there was a laceration. Probably already had in his mind to do something.

as a parent, im shocked and mortified about this whole case, as a citizen of the United States, im shocked and mortified......from a parental point of view, there is a fine line between punishment, and malice. there is no valid explanation that can be given to justify this man actions as a parent, or citizen, i as a parent have gotten enraged with my child, but the thoughts of killing my child has never entered my mind. when i discipline my child i still try to leave a shred of dignity in his eyesight. if u discipline a child to a certain extent, they will grow into an adult without emotions, because of the severity of the punishments that was pummeled into them as a child. and that is exactly what has happened here with this case, this man obviously was punished so much as a child, that he has no emotions and he felt that he was doing what his parents or grandparents would do in this situation. we have to remember that this generation of children, is far much smarter, but yet still sensitive and we need to protect them and mold them into the proper citizens to lead this country, and that way we wont have a situation like this again>>>>>>shocked young black mother!!!!

I beleive there is a back story here that we don't know about. I beleive this father had resentment or some kind of dislike for the son in the first place that was seething beforehand, and used this excuse, or 'snapped' as he put it, to murder his son. So, so sad for the families.

At least this animal is having a trial. That can't be said for a 15 year old boy.

I can not wrap my head around this at all. I fell apart when I had to put my dog down. This case has really made me think and dream of things I never thought about before.

how can you take your own kids life......i hope he get the chair

This story has rocked my world from the morning I heard about it. My stomach turned...I literally felt nauseated. How in the world can A MAN take his ONLY son's life..Jr's mom described it like Sr was a straight gang banger jacking a rival gang member. Are you serious? When you sign up for parenthood, you take the good with the bad. Unfortunately, what Jr did is not that uncommon. Families have to pull together and figure out how to weather through storms. Sr. is not the only father that has had to deal with this exact situation. When he executed his son, he killed his seed, his name sake and potentially his lineage...how sad is that!

Jamar Sr. knew what he was gonna do that is why he brought that gun with him,I mean why do you need a gun to come and talk with your 15 year old son.If Jamar Jr. had penetrated the little girl there would have been some bleeding and no one has said anything about the little girl bleeding.I hope the jury has the good sense to convict Jamar Sr.for the rest of his life there is a place in HELL for him.He should truly be ashamed of himself.

I've feel very sorry for the whole family in this case. I beleive, like some others, feels that Karoon (the little girl's mother) played a roll in the extent Pinkney went in punishing his son. I feel that he would have probably beat the little boy into next week and then called the police, but the little girls mother seemed to have been insisting on MORE.
You know how people can plant a seed in the mind and influence us to do things. I think that was the case here. He was past upset when he found this out. What parent wouldn't be?, but I think she pushed him over the edge with his decision.
The phone call to her before the shooting and the phone call right after the shooting to her, even though he denies it, speaks volumes to me.

I'm sitting here looking at the Pinkney trial, and I can't understand for the life of me how someone who can maintain composure throughout the whole trial, in addition, admits to maintaining this same calmness and composure during the time that he questioned his son about the allegations can all of a sudden become so enraged that he savagely beats his son then executes him. I don't deny that he was probably hurt about the incident, but there is no way possible that he could possibly become so suddenly explosive. I honestly think that he was trying to lug himself up to do this to his son during the time he did such things as going to his car to get his toothbrush, going into the bathroom to brush his teeth, and then questioning his son repeatedly while only getting the same information each time.

Mr. Pickney could possibly be withholding emotions because he knows that he went too far. He knows that his course of action was excessive and totally unnecessary.

This prosecutor is absolutely on point!!!!!

wow he went to they house with a loaded gun to talk with his son he already had it made up in his mind to kill his son omg

i feel so sorry for the family, they will be in my prayers. yes i think
mr.pickney should get the death penalty. y would he take a gun in the house in the first place. he was dealing with his child.

Why did Jamar Pinkeny Sr. feel that he had to silence his son? What was Pinkeny Sr. hiding that he did not want his son to tell? He went there with a GUN! Who goes to talk to their child with a Gun!

This whole case is said & I feel both parents fell to protect this young man.. Everybody keep sayin he raped his sister please tell me where that was proven. Jr didn't have a chance for a trial remember his father killed him.. Why is Sr the only person that he confessed to when Jr told his mother what he had done.. I think Ms.Ivy saw the opportunity to destroy this man relationship with his son & used it to her advantage I don't believe she knew Sr would kill him though.. Sr made it perfectly clear who had his heart while on the stand he said my daughter more times than I cared to hear but not once did he say my son.. You would think by now he would have shed a tear. I truly hope he can forgive his self for his actions.. And now that the son is dead him & Ms.Ivy 2gether yeah something is very wrong with this story

What would have happened if it was a stranger? He would have shot the stranger and everyone would have moved on....I feel so bad for this family! The mother just had to sit there and watch this!! Can only imagine the pain that she is going thru sitting in that court room watching the man she once loved, the man that just shot her baby in the head!! This whole case is so sad! Both families have to deal with this for the rest of they lives! Jamar Sr....just because he didnt show any emotion on the stand or throughout this trial....trust and believe he is dealing with this!!

I finally see a few comments with feelings a little close to mine. There is a lot of unfairness going on. l think it should be a mistrial. But what l really want to know is am I the only one the caught the sons mother say to the prosecutor that her son said he pulled down the girls pants and then tell the defense her son said he pulled down his pants and then she quickly tried to correct the error? That was the last thing i needed to hear to believe for sure that the son did tell more. Plus i will not buy that only one pants were down because. Either they were both on or off. Flesh to flesh requires both down and thats what he wanted. Why leave one on? Doesnt make sense to me.

There's nothing the father can really say to justify his actions for what he did to his own child. First the expression on his face shows alot of things it seems like he dont care and the mother of his daughter as well do not show any emotions because I believe she feels it was justified for Jamal Sr. actions. Jamal Sr. should already know that he is not going to receive a lesser sentence and the state attorney is doing a wonderful job showing that he was in his right mind and that this was a planned killing of Jr. It so sad for a child to die like that but after all the verdict and the law comes and go Sr. is still going to have to answer to the Highest judge and that is God.

Ivey too k her daughter to the E.R. The doctors said the little girl hasn't been penetrated. But she didn't like what he said. She's not a doctor, so how can she say the doctor was wrong. It's almost like she wanted something to be wrong with her daughter because she knew Pinkney Sr. was going to kill his son. She needed more evidence to get him off. This is why she argued with the E.R. doctor, then took her daughter to another dr. She was telling the doctor what to say, and what to find.

Where were the parents on the day Jamar Jr. supposedly did this act? I believe Jamar Sr. should get the death penalty. Too bad State of Michigan doesn't have it! How horrendous this must have been for Ms.Cherry to see. How lucky for Jamar Sr.

i think it should be guilty of first degree murder!!!!! i dont think he should get the death penalty because he should live the rest of his life in jail thinking about what he has done to his son!!!! my thing is who gets up in the morning and goes to see their child with a gun in his pocket!!! he already knew earlier that morning and 1 somehting that he was to meet with his son and his mother so why would you go with your gun!! he knew what he was goin to do and its no such thing as an out of body experience then ten seconds after shooting him he so happens to come to!!! thats bull!!!!! and all those phone calls he made and not one to the police for an ambulance he should live to have his murder haunt him for the rest of his life!!!! my prayers go out to the cherry family!!!!!

we tell our kids to tell the truth no matter how bad and when jamar jr. did this that he lost his life!!! no saying what he did was right he should have gotten punished but he should not have paid for it with his life!!!

I have tried to understand this Fathers feelings, and I think that he planned to kill his son when he went to Monique's home. He should be found guilty and I think he should get life without parole.

i feel mr pinkney sr. is in a state of obvious shock. he is unemotioinal on the outside because his heart is dead on the inside. he regrets his actions. i really feel his pain. betty

Pi nkney Sr. is a sadistic person. Why did he have his son 'strip' before he took him outside and executed him. Doing this humiliation part only proves to me that he had planned the whole thing.
Since it is unclear exactly what Jamar Jr. did, I think the little girl might be hurt more in the long run by the whole story. Too bad Sr can't be executed in the same fashion.

Head held high, nose turned up even higher, as if he is some kind of royalty, addressing his servants.There is no remorse, because he is not remorseful.Is he Muslim or has he adapted to the misguided premis of renegade Muslims that gives him the "right","duty", to be judge and jury and yes ,executioner ,even in his own family.
I don't have an ounce of sympathy for him.He disgusts me.I also think the little girls mother should have been culpable as I am sure she did her share of whipping him to a froth, for hours and days, encouraging him to take matters in her own hands.She has an attitude herself and again, showed no remorse , or sympathy for the dead child's family.Ad bad as it was, this chiild will not remember the event but will grow up feeling responsible for the death of her brother.

Pinkney Sr. is guilty! He murdered his 15 year old son while he begged (naked) for forgivenes......a very cruel action!
Pinkney Sr. MUST pay for what he did , a life sentence is not enough punishment for him!

I think he should get manslaughter. He does show remorse. He is a dead man walking. I believe that he lost it. He did not realize what he was doing. He snapped. He loved both children and he never lied about what happened.

I can only pray that there is some emotions left in this cold faced individual. I can't call him a man, I can't call him a beast, I can't even call him crazy because he's none of the above. At the time of the killing, he had not snapped. He snapped back into reality that he had committed this terrible crime against his son & in front of the boys mother & her family. That's just plain FOUL. I feel that the little girls mother may have mention that he should be dead for doing what he did , not meaning it but Sr. took that and ran with it thinking that would make her happy. He will be judged here on earth but he will face the highest judge when his day comes. I don't believe this outer body experience he claims but like I said, this act of violence is just FOUL ( & that's putting it nicely)

People are talking about how he has not responded, that he is cold. I think this man truly snapped and has withdrawn inside himself but not only that I think it is part of how he was before this unfortunate incident. For viewers to say he loved his Daughter more than his Son is not fair. I believe the girls Mother did have his ear and may have pushed him but i think he truly just snapped and acting the way he does helps him to distance himself from what he has done.

A man is only a man when it come to his love ones! In the bible it said protect your home by all means etc.Just take a moment and watch the movie "A TIME TO KILL"! All thought it is a movie but it should make you realize if you was Jamar Pinkney Sr. May God see over this verdict because man shouldnt decide.

I feel like what this 15 year old predator has done to this 3 year old child, he got what he deserved.I may seem cold but I believe in protecting my family and faced with this may have done the same thing. Our judicial system has been flawed in some many ways, had this boy been turned over to authorties, does that mean he woulda been evaluated and given the proper help that everyones says he needed. Or would he have got a slap on the wrist and set free to be able to prey on another victim? At least now I know this one predator that can't prey on my family. Good job Mr Pinkney!!!!!!

Well I can actually relate to his anger my children were raped by a member of the family this past year and yes people its called rape a three year old cannot consent to sexual favors. But the 15 yr old uncle did the exact same thing to my 3yr old daughter and 6 year son. My kids are having issues with that and now there exposed to the facts of life before they were even ready. Yes I do believe that he went to far as to actually shoot his own son but what would another man have done if that boy did it to someone elses little girl and not his sister. He probably just wanted to put his so out of his misery because the boy would be going to jail if he would have been found guilty of rape. Jr was on the road of being a very disturbed human being because he knew what he was doing was wrong int the first place. And I also feel that he is remorseful he must feel as though he has saved both children and he will break down its just not time yet i feel him there's noting in the parenting handbook about rape and incest in the home I pray for him because he is the one witht the heavy heart he killed his son to protect his daughter and thats something that he has to live with I already know that he saw his son as a monster because thats what I see when I look at my kids uncle the only diffrence between us is I was molested at age 9 so I was aware that theres help and he didnt know who to ask.

jamal pinkney sr. is a cold bloody killer thats all it is to it.

We write and call in about what "we" would have done if "we" were in this situation. This is hard for the nation to watch so I can only imagine what the mother is going through. I pray this family has all the support they need and I pray that God is withevery person on this case.

There are a few questions that I would like to ask Jamar Sr. One being how is that you so vividly can remember something so simple as to how your gun was facing whether up or down while in the house questioning jr., and the second would be if you truely snapped or had the out of body experience then why didn't he shoot Jamar jr. in the house in front of everyone? This man who is claiming to be this great father did not take the time to find out if this sexual act that was supposely done to his daughter had ever happened to his son. Maybe that is why he would have been acting out or maybe the daughter learned this behavior from someone in daycare. He and Kerron were looking for something or some way they could get rid of that young boy.

Shouldnt the girlfriend and mother of the three year old be charged with first-degree criminal assistance??? SHe Knew Mr Pinkney was going to Kill Jamar Jr. that day/night and the day Jamar Jr got shot!!!!! there is Proof!! HE CALLED the sister by mistake to tell the girlfriend he took care of it!!!! She should go to jail too!!!!!!! thats my opinion!!!!! other then that Mr Pinkney should Be killed!!!

In no way shape or form do I condone Jamar Pinkney Sr.'s actions at all. With that being said, I believe that Mr. Pinkney did indeed "snap" and what we saw on the stand is a shell of his former self. I believe that Mr. Pinkney literally "checked out" when he pulled the trigger. Also, although he saw his son in the physical, I believe that in his mind, the person before him was no longer his son, but the monster, the animal who violated his child. It really bothers me that Jamar Jr.'s mother and other family members have minimized Jamar Jr.'s action. The statement from his mother that her son "just humped on" his little sister, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Does she not understand that "just humping" is totally inappropriate behavior and that a young child's life has been forever altered by her brother's actions. No one seems to realize the damage that has been done to this baby. Not only will she grow up without her father, but everyday she will have to live with the fact that her brother is dead because her father killed him for raping her. The attacks on Ms. Ivey were totally unwarranted. The suggestion by Jamar, Jr.'s mother that Ms. Ivey could have "had somebody do something" to her child is absolutely unconscionable. I totally understand her pain and truly sympathize with her, but I really feel that she is in denial as to her son's role in this tragedy. Ms. Ivey did what any mother would do in following up the allegations made by her child. This is tragic all around and my heart goes out to every individual affected by this unfortunate event. I pray that Mr. Pinkney, Sr. finds peace and reconciliation with his Maker for his actions.

And it also gets me that this man is the monster in everyones eyes but what about his son what no blame goes to him because he's dead he still commeted a crime and yes the father did. But ti makes me mad that no one sees it from this mans eyes no one can really speak on the situation unless been faced with it and me personally wouldnt have not pulled the trigger but I would have told my son another man would have and not gave a tear. People need to quit african american males are not good with showing there emotions thats something that has been surrpressed before the age of nine we tell ours sons to man up and tell them how to handle business but we dont tell them its ok to cry so now You have a man on the stand and yeah I would shield my heart too because the thought of what he has done and what he has to live with might cause him to have a stroke or a heartattack that could be to overwhelming for him

Jamar Pinkney Sr. and the toddler's mother wanted his son dead, period! He clearly didn't love his son to begin with, and the other woman was definitely wanted this boy out of the picture. They chose not to call authorities before, they went to the other doctor so they can justify it. She showed no concern for the child's family. That woman needs to spend the rest of her life in prison along with Pinkney Sr. She is equally to blame for this child's death. She showed no emotion during her testimony, which makes me believe that she got what she wanted: the other child out of the picture!!! She was satisfied that Pinkney Jr is gone! She is as much as a evil, cold-blooded killer as Pinkney Sr is!

The man is a monster and should never be free to walk among us again.

For some reason people are being stupid enough not to be lookin at the whole story. just picture it as your child or children. just think if that was not his son and someone else told him they did that to his baby. if you are a real parent and you love your child you are gonna do something about it. i do believe he was not himself what people wouldnt be. as a mother i wouldnt be able to be myself and if it was my 3 year old i know for a fact i would have lost my mind. i would not stand for i. as a mother and as a human no one well harm my child. and i'm sure that someone would have to call the cops on me too

I think this trial has been very biased against Sr. Sitting out front on display is not right. To allow the people in the gallery to shout out comments is unfair to the defense. The prosecuter is rude and sarcastic and I object to her entire demeanor. Having noted all these things, I believe Sr. is guilty and I would have reached that decision without all the biased actions against the defendent.

We can not say much about what Jr did, he was murdered by his own father.
They will be no justice other then death for a boy who did not RAPE this poor innocent little girl, he HUMPED on her! (medical proof)
I can not believe his attonery stood there and said Theu jury should not condemn Sr for having a gun that day, it was for his protection. He is right, but the jury can and should condemn Sr for using it to kill his son.
This is a SIN!
He had over 100 chances to stop this "out of body experience he was in.

Jamar Pinkney is cold hearted. He shows no kind of remorse for killing his son that he said he loved so much. And the little girl's mother thinks it was justified for killing him. The father had plan to do some damage to his son because why else would he take a loaded gun to the house. When I see the dad in the court room he makes me sick to my stomach. His son was begging for help and for his life. And his last words was NO DADDY, NO DADDY. The death penalty!

Why didn't Jamar Sr.'s lawyer give moe of a picture of what his client was like before? I think we have nothing to compare Jamar Sr prior this crime. I heard nothing of him being a bad father or person to people who knew him. All we know is that he was "cold" AFTER this horrible incident. From what I hear he attempted to try to hear both sides of what happened, He tried to process it rationally...step by step, until emotions got to be such that at some point, thru all the argueing between all these women, his son's pleading, inconsistancies in medical reports , and stress, of what was being learned he could have "snapped" from that point and did the horrible tings to humiliate his son befor he killed his son. He apparently seems to remaine in that psycological emotionless state until now. He acts like someone who knows he has no redemption for his crime

Jamar has no feelings.....and it looks like he wanted to be a big man in front of his girlfriend so he could say I took care of the problem....Sick man....

As I said in previous days, children and adults are being molested and raped every second of every day; by either strangers or family members. 98% of people who are affected by this do not go around with guns on a killing spree, they go to the police, and start the long path of healing.
He deserves 1st degree, no less.

I just happened to come across the trial, for the first time on 8/10/10 and was appalled to what I was hearing. I must first start off by saying that I normally don't even respond to things of this nature, but after watching this man, and having children myself I had to. I know that there are alot of things people say they will or would not do in a case of this, however being a mother of three, I know what I would not have done and that is allowed that man to beat on my child in the manner of which he states that he did. I know deep in my soul I would have been the one on trial. I am not condoning what was accused of the child but there are other ways of dealing with a situation of that magnitude. I blame everyone involved with this because it was senseless. I believe that Sr was given a choice by the 3yr olds mother to do something about it, and that is exactly what he did. I also believe that because of this the mother of the three year should be an accessory to the fact after the murder especially after being called and told that the matter had been dealt with. My heart bleeds for Ms Cherry, and her family, it is already hard out here for any child to live no matter what color that child is, but now you are telling me that not only do you have to fight off the evils of this world but the estrange parents as well. He does not deserve life, did he give his son the opportunity to have one. No need for rehabilition, I am never one for the death penalty but the circumstances for this one only points to that route.

The man approached life and fatherhood in a methodical manner. It's obvious he "lost it", I can't believe the state wasted money on a trial attempting to prove premeditated murder when a lesser charge would still punish but show justice. He will be mentally incarcerated by his actions for the rest of his life.

I remember this shooting last year and have watched this trial since the begining this man is cold and heartless and i think he should get the maximum sentence, to never see the outside world again, if he can kill his own son like an animal, he may do this again to someone else.

His demeanor may have been coached but no normal person could hear and talk about what he did and remain so calm. I say guilty of first degree murder.

OK! Your child was touched. Press charges. No one has the right to take a humans life. Not only does Sr. have no feelings, but not even the li'girls mother have feelings that the man that fathered MY child just killed his own SON! Every time Jamar Jr. name is brought up, she turns her lips straight as if that is what needed to happen. The defense has just lost his case. And the defence make it seems like it should have happen this way.

Jamar Pinkney should be found Guilty by the court and sentenced to the Maximum allowable punishment...additionally, he will be judged by God and condemned to burn in hell for eternity, which I hope is televised as well !

the father had no right to take the law in his own hands...get the boy help, take him to talk to someone, but kill him, hell no. during the whole court hearing, he has not sheded a tear..how can any one shoot a kid?? and his on blood, his son.. may he rest in peace, my heart gose out to his mother..

Pinkey Sr. did nothing to try and help his son, he treated Pinkey Jr. like he was some stranger on the street. As parents it's our responsibilty to talk to children about sex because if we don't this is a prime example of what can happen. Pinkey Jr. was going through changes as a teen and not once has either of the parents said 'we or I talked to Pinkey Jr. about sex'
Pinkey Sr needs to pay for what he did, I think he needs life without parole

Even if he did it in a fit of rage why is he not showing emotion of regret now? Did he move on to his new family and wash his hands of his first son? Guilty

i think jamar pickney senior is guilty of cold-blooded first degree murder. the judge should throw the book at him!

Pinkney Sr. is guilty! Killing his own son was crazy. He also needs his head examined.

the prosecution says jr might have been the first man on mars, he might have found a cure for cancer , HE MIGHT of alot of things but we will never know, but we already know what he WAS. Jr was a RAPIST, a MOLESTER.... All I can think that maybe that father might have thought was that there was a monster in his son, and that monster was living with his baby daughter. Honestly I wouldn't know what I would do... pre-meditated NO.

He is guilty of first degree murder, after beating the child he should have stopped, but instead he stripped him and took him outside and shot him. The beating should have been enough.

From the time to think + the time to react = PREMEDITATION!
Jamar Pinkney Sr. needs to be found guilty of murder in the 1st Degree.
Brande

he is guilty as charge.he need to get the gaschamber chair

You know I have been trying to watch this trial as much as I can. My question is what did he actually do to this little girl??? Does anyone really know? I mean...he was tried, found guilty of rape and executed by his father without an investigation. It has been said that she is still a virgin and that there was no damage the night at the er and then lo and behold an injury appears. I think he probably just rubbed on her, like he said and I understand that is not acceptable in any way, but did not excuse his father for just taking him out an shooting him in the head. I think he could have been saved.

my opionion is that he need life or gas chainmer,because jamar and his girlfreind plan to kill that child .and he did not have no outer body nothing.he let his grilfreind and her sister talk him into getting rind of his son to show her he loved his girlfreind and her daughter more . they plan that.

I'd like to believe that he had an out of body moment as he claims, because someone would have to, to do what he did to his son. But from watching him and hearing all the testimony against him, I just can't believe him. He appears to be cold hearted & cold blooded. So I feel he should be convicted on Murder 1.

How could a loving father kill his son instead of getting him help ? I could understand if he turned his son in for his actions with his sister, but only a cold hearted person could shoot thier own son ! I say give him the death penalty if possible.

He is Guilty in the first degree, because when someone carries a gun everyday they carry it in a Holster not their belt.

When he brought the gun to the field where he took the life of his son should tell everyone the intentions of the defendant. He did not bring the gun out of his own fear or felt like he needed it, he brought the gun to kill this poor child. I have no pity on this man and he is guilty of first degree murder. It was premeditated murder because each foot step the defendant took as he approached his son the defendant knew what he was going to do.

I just hope he gets what is coming to him. Should never walk the face of this Earth from this day forward.

This juror 13 votes Guilty. Murder in the 1st Degree

I know it is first degree murder premeditated all the way. He should have talked to him and put him in a hospital to get him help. I'm sorry to the child's mother and family. He deserves death row and a painful one not leathal injection either eletric chair yes.

i think he should be charge with first degree murder he could of got counceling for him he went over there tryin to prove a point to the girl friend you should never pick one child over the other even though the boy was wrong for doin what he did that gives him no right to take the boy life

I believe he should be found guilty of firsrt degree murder. How can a father be so cold as to humilate his son and then turn around and shoot him and kill him. How would the father feel if someone did the same thing to him in the same manner he did to his son. He deserves the death penality in my opinion.

Why hasn't it been brought up that the 15 year old boy was abusing his sister. This makes me think that the son was abused as well. Why would a father shoot his own kid other than the fear of what may have been discovered in the police investigation of the abuse of the little girl?

Yes, he is guilty of 1st degree murder, but I think the mother did little to stop it. Standing on the side lines screaming doesn't get it. I know I would have never let my son walk out that door. I would have followed them into the field and stood in front of my son and taken the bullet for him.

Another thing if they had no proof of sexual assault and they already knew that. Did dad do it and tell her that she needed to say her brother did it and then he was so scared he confessed anyway. I just don't understand.

I appreciate the fact that the mother of the girls wants her to forget about it but I think they should have had the same respect for his son in regard to getting the facts from the girl to try and find out what really happened. we still don't know what really happened. I hope he goes to jail for the rest of his life. The mother of this girl needs to get over herself. This little girl is going to be just fine....the boy is not!!

First of all if Jamar Jr. had inserted his penis in a 3 yr old there would have been compelling evidence immediately such as blood and severe pain from the little girl. No one would have had to wait for the little girl to say something weeks or days later. I believe in the mothers testimony 100%. Jamar Sr is guilty of murder in the 1st degree, period.

Jamar Pinkney Sr. is a sociopath who deserves the death penalty. Given no death penalty in Michigan, we can only hope justice plays out in prison, as it did with Dahmer.

Is it only me or has anyone else caiught a bad question by Sr.s atty
During Sr.s recount of the incident, his atty , asked questions and led him thru it. Then omerra asked him how he felt standing there after the shooting, Sr replies terrible, and then states he goes on a little later and begins getting his rationale back. My Question, is if he was out of body, how does he know how he felt at that moment. I just can`t see why the prosecuter didn`t pick up on this thk u

Karonne and Jamar Sr. planned this. She knew what he was going over there to do. There was no "brutal rape". Life in prison is too good for him.

His daughter's innocence is gone forever!

Looking at this from the 3 year old parents point of view..I can understand the anger and fury when they found out..To make light of the assault by the prosacuting attornery if terrible..this child will have to live with this for the rest of her life..I do not condone the murder, but can understand the urge to kill..have been there and there is no unreasonable anger like that of a mom or dad of a child who has been assualted.

Miss Ivey checked into Jr.'s insurance policy because, "the family needed money for the funeral." The dad had to go to his car to, "get his tooth brush." It's sad when people have to watch their back within their own family.

Although I feel the father is quilty of first degree murder I also feel the mother of the 3 year old bears some responsibility as I have been bothered by the language she says her 3 year old used to discribe what the boy did to her. Only some coaching from the mother would result in the girl using explicit language such as she supposedly used. No doubt the young man's behavior was inappropriate but I feel his mother would have taken steps to get the help he needed.

Jamar Sr. did what any good loving parent would've done. Only difference it was his son. He saved the world from a future rapist. Kudos to Jamar Sr.

i would like to see the victims mother charged for inciting this entire execution.

i think he should get the death chair thats right i understand how he feel but thats your child ur blood and you want to kill him he should get wat he deserve and thats the worst.

just saw the verdict i think he should have gotten the highest punisment allowed by law

I am a mother what I feel why did the mother wait 2 days before saying anything about it. I feel she could have call the police and had the son lock up. All this could have been prevented. Maybe the mother should take some responsiblites for her actiions.

Yes! Yes! Yes! It has handed to him very well.
Justice Has Been Served

I'm interested to know if "karron" the "girlfriend" is being investigated for her role in this murder. It has come to light that she knew what was going to happen. First off, the accidental phone call to Karron, second, when Karron took the stand and she was questioned about Jamar Sr.'s admission and or confession, she said in open court and on the stand, "he confessed to me that "its been done", then she tried to correct herself. Am I the only one that heard that admission?

If the Father snapped...why did he get in the car and drive away and make that phone call? Why did they contact the insurance company the day of the son's murder? And why after this incident did they take the daughter to the pediatrition and BTW find a laceration that the ER did not? Suspicious behavior for sure.

What the father did to his son was wrong, but I believe he snapped when his son descripted the detail. His mind could not comprehend what he was hearing. His reaction was to attack. Maybe he was molested when he was younger and what happen brought back memories. Also he didn't want to lose his girlfriend and daughter since his parents were not in his life. I believe the girlfriend made matters worse by not talking to him about seeking counseling for his son also. This is a terrible situation and my heart goes out to both family. Justice served.

I think Jamar Sr is a cold boolded killer and should spend the rest of his life in prison.. For a man, a father to look his on flesh and boold in the face and kill him as the child is pleading for his life. I think there should have been another way to handle this situation. Me personally don't think that the child raped the little girl. As a mother I wouldn't have waited two days to take my child to the doctor.. Second Degree murder wasn't a justicfied punishment for this man, He should have got capital murder because it's not fair to the 15 year old who never got a cance to live his life.

my question is this man walkin around with a loaded gun jus ready to fire? or is dat the reason y he had to go into the bathroom was it to load an have to get ready to fire.

I'm satisfied with the verdict, although hoping for 1st degree. What I ponder upon is even though he had a permit to carry a gun, most people would normally have it holstered. Not to mention there was no threat to him in that house. But instead he stuffed it in his pants, indicating to me that he was going in there to possibly kill his son. I'm not sure his meditation was formed many hours before, I think that he was tired of going around with his son about the details, and when he went to his car, he thought, this is enough! My son is a liar, and a molester, and he needs to die. When he left the scene, I think from watching his testomy, that he knew that he commited a terrible crime, and that he felt the need to see his daughter, before going to jail for a very long time. None of these behaviors show a snapping response! Looking at his lack of feeling, I think he said to himself that his son had to die, and I am willing to go to jail for life.....

karone ivey i know her baby was a victim but her baby is not dead she is in counseling . that is were jamar jr.should have been but a lot happen in this case is karone ivey fault because she did not like him and by her attitude she still don't.

We are missing two crucial points in this case. Who gives anyone the right to take another ones life and do it without malis. secondly, the ER claims there was NO physical evidence in the routine checkup. Then later on, oh by the way the family doctor tells different. Maybe someone else other than the SON molested or RAPED that girl. I'm just saying what i feel. And I believe the girls mom pushed, pickney sr. to his limit. As children, didn't we all tell a lie one time or another. Or is the family so truthful, they never lie.......He deserve life without parole. His son will have life, with GOD, but God is a man of forgiveness. Remember, we are talking about GODS children.

and also when he wanted to take the boy in his car, that should have been a telling tale that he wanted to harm him really bad, I think if he had taken the boy in his car, he would just kill him like a dog, and say he dont know where he is. That's why on the first ingling a mother have that the father is showing signs of disregard or resentment for their child, the mother should break off the relationship, there had to be telling signs that Sr didnt like jamal, this couldnt come up in one day, for him to beat and kick the boy, but at least he would be living, but to kill him like that, and had time to point the gun at other people? I hope the dog gets 20 straight years, and another 8 for pointing the gun at other people who tried to stop him.

Ms. Ivey seems a bit shady to me. There is something about her that makes me wonder if her talk and her walk match up. She wants us to believe she is a concerned parent. I hope she is....

Why was she sitting in court listening to a serious case concerning her daughter wearing that hairclip in her hair? Her affect seemed to have been a little off when questioned by the prosecution, also. I always got the feeling she was not quite honest and forthcoming with her replies to questions.

Truly, I feel she(Ms. Ivey) had something to do with this child being killed. I hate to think this because it is out of character for me to think she would have given Jamar, Sr. the idea to "handle this problem".

I started watch on monday i was so saddened by what jamar sr did i am a mother with 2 sons myself i feel like everyone is a loser in this case but mounique lost big because atleast jamar sr is still breathing and so is his precious baby girl he handled this in the worst way imaginable my heart felt so heavy the whole time i watched one day he will meet his maker sr that is and i feel sorry for him on that day because it wont be pretty

I believe with all my heart that Pinkney Sr did leave his soul and spirit in the field on his son's fatal day. If he ever regains his feelings, that man is going to be in pain beyond explaination. I believe right now he is numb to the capacity. This story is so heart wrenching.

And Miss Ivey and jamar sr must drink the same water from the same fountain she was just as heartless as he mounique did show concern about her baby girl but miss ivey only wanted jamar jr tooken care of we must all remmember there is a hot place called hell and there is no air condition there so enjoy jamar senior you should hope to live forever so that you wont have to face judgement day in front of the almighty most high judge

Yes what the jr. did was bad but did he deserve to die for it NO. I think the mother of his daughter told him to go handle his son, and she knew he was going there to kill him. Jr. PLOTTED on their daughter so they PLOTTED on him. Shame on both of them. Sr. needs to be stripped down marched to that same vacant lot and then given his sentence.If there are two people in this world you can count on to support you unconditionally it's your mother and father. Did Sr. love his daughters mother so much he would kill his only son, Sr. and God knows the truth and i pray Sr. has to answer for his actions one day

The father is found guilty of 2nd degree murder- fair enough.

Now what about the mother that stood by and watched? accessory to the crime? Yes! did she call 911? did she try to stop him? NO.
Why isn't she being looked at? Just wondering?

Shame on Senior for his actions, he should od realized that Junior "learned" that behavior from someone, why not hold that person accountable. Senior has some issues which he will be sort out in jail. I hope he gets the maximum allowed!

if jamar sr. had not done what he did, someone else what have did it later

I think the mother of Jr. is so inclined to minimize her son's actions. Whether it was 'dry' humping, or skin on skin humping, this is a serious violation of a 3 year old. She said on a interview with Ryan Smith how there was no reason to involve the authorities. "He hadn't raped her". I think the authorities should have gotten involved and taken J. Jr. out of the home and arrested him immediately. No parent should have to be put in a position of knowing his daughter was violated, and knowing it was his son that did it. I found the mother least credible. She was over dramatic, and had an agenda of not wanting her son to be labeled a rapist.

This case is one of the most tragic cases that I've followed. From the time Jamar Jr confessed to what he had done to his sister, shows that this young boy was very sorry for his actions and the family was trying to handle the situation in the most logical way possible. The fact that Jamar Sr told his son to strip naked, only to raise a loaded gun to his head and shoot, while the boy was kneeling and pleading for his life, shows that Jamar Sr. had no paternal love or compassion whatsoever for his son, or for the women that were screaming for him to stop. No one is to blame here but Jamar Sr and he deserves life in prison. As for the little girl, she may be young enough to forget what happened to her, but one day she will grow up and will likely find out the truth about this incident. I pray that her foundation is strong enough to see her through it all.

Every one is entitled to a fair trial to find out the facts. Some of you are jumping to the conclusion that this child was raped. What are the real facts? After being questioned over and over, day in and day out, I probably would have confessed to anything just to be left alone and tell you what you want to hear. Now no one actually knows the truth except Jamal Jr, who isn't hear to defend hiimself. A little girl, who probably told her parents what they wanted to hear. It's disgusting. I hope that these adults realize that they played a part in this child's death. We are talking about a fifteen year old boy and this child should have been examined by other doctors to get a second opinion. We have seen so many times that errors are made. This childs reputation is ruined and he is no longer here to defend himself.

Justice has been served. maybe the mother can stopped being blamed & hopefully have some peace. She is living a nightmare I can't even imagine why would anyone place guilt onher (which i'm sure she feels) I am a mother & a grandmother I love all my family & would die for any of them. I won't judge this mother, she tried to stop him he said that he pushed her she begged & pleaded along with Jamar Jr. she did not know he would kill his own son. You say what you would do, I wa not in her shoes, don't know what I would have done. Jamar Sr was on a mission to kill his son as promised to his daughter's mother. Would it be better if 5 people were dead & another child with out a mother & family. My heart aches for this family & i pray for them. The father is the killer & the coward.

I think that Jamal Sr deserved 1st degree murder. I understand what his son did was wrong but his son had more courage than any person ive seen by admitting to abusing his sister and asking for help and forgiveness. I work in a mental hospital with sexually abusive children and from my experience sexually abuse is a learned behavior. Children see it or are abused theirselves and tend to sexually act out. Jamal Sr makes me wish that there should be a required application for parenthood. Its hurtful to know that he took the law in his own hands to so-called PROTECT his family but its horrendous that it was his own son. If anything Jamal Sr should of felt remorseful for his son's actions and tried to find the point that he failed his son. I think he his a waste of flesh and he better pray that while he is in prison someone will have more compassion for him. Child abuse is one of the most dispectable crimes and is not tolerated in prision. Jamal Sr didn't use his head but where was his heart for his son.

My question is why is the little girls mother still defending the father. Doesnt she care that this man has committed murder. Against his own son. Beat, kicked, pistol whipped him. After all that his anger still wasn,t sated. This is a crime that will only escalate as time goes on.I think the little girls mother should be in therapy as well. She is delusional if she thinks the justice system did him wrong. How can she set her little girl on the road to healing if she continue to defend a monster.She needs to let Pinkney do his time. While she as the good mother she claimes to be concentrate on her daughter.

There was no heat of the moment.He found out on Sunday and kills him around 1:00 on Monday.I have been caught up on the heat of the moment and thank God it never lead to murder but at that time everything was a blurr and I could of never remembered it all in prefect detail. I don't know what the jury was thinking but my prayers are with the mother and Aunt. I could never think what it would be like to see my own child killed right in front of me.

Regarding both Michigan and Ohio cases, it is scientific fact that the human mind does not mature until around ages 23 to 25. This is an indictment against Ohio for trying a young man as an adult. It is certainly an indictment against Jamar Pinckey, Sr., for the judgment he made against his very young son who had so much maturation yet to experience.

Pinckey was guilty of first degree murder, very much premeditated with a gun in hand and stripping the child, marching him out the door, directing him through the gate and into the field, all of which clearly indicates premeditation. He could have stopped the process at any time. He deserves the higher level of punishment except that I would guarantee 80 years in prison for this man.

For the young Ohio man, Kovarbasich, again, his youth and his immature brain accounts well for the situation in which he found himself and the lack of good judgment in his response to Hurley.

I have a daughter and I as well as many men I know have said if someone were to sexually assault my daughter I would kill them. I understand his mindset. You know though if you carry out your promise to kill a person that has done such a terrible thing to your daughter that you will have to pay the consequences. The fact that he shot his own son should tell everyone he has no regard for life and should be behind bars for the rest of his life. I hope he is in prison the rest of his life. He would be a danger to society if ever freed. Thank You, Mark S.

Why did the child NOT have signs of rape before Jr. was killed, and had a scar AFTER the killing? Did someone touch that child to make Jamar Jr's murder somewhat justified?

Why was nothing found at the hospital before Jamar Jr.s murder but was found AFTER?

Something just isn't making sense to me.

well he got what he deserved 35-80yrs in prison, the judge went over and beyond the actual jail time for a second degree murder, and I'm glad he did... NOW we'll see how man he is in prison. Kudos to the Judge for doing the right thing for that young man that lost he's life.

i couldn't believe what i was hearing when i heard about this case. how and the world could you take the life of your on child? i to had a tradegy to occur with two of my children one accidentally took the life of the other. and it never cross my mind to kill my other child. i do believe that it was planned and i also believe that his daughters mother attitude toward the situation made him feel as though he had to choose between the love of his son or the love of his daughter. it is a shame what family values has been deduced to. i hope and pray for his soul because every moment for the rest of his life whether in prison or as a free man he will remember the look on his sons face as he took his life what a coward.

I FEEL sorry for him, Jamar Jr did rape his sister, who was only 3, is that ok people? Is that smething we just ignore, especially his brother doing that to his sister? omg, that
deserves a punishment and people react in different ways. Jamar SR action is understandable. ( to me it is)
I saw a lot of pain behind his expression.

This so called man will have to answer for what he did when he leaves this earth, and he won't be going upward. He didn't deserve a wonderful son like Jamar Jr. Rot in hell.

How did this 3 year old know enough about a penis to ask a question to her aunt if the boy did not expose himself to her? The boy obviously sexually molested his sister, even though we may never know for sure to what extent. The judge tried to compare Ms. Cherry's feelings to the fathers, but Jamar Jr's mother and her family had absolutely no emotional investment in the little girls situation or what she had to endure. The father heard that his baby was raped, and he went off. I might have done the same thing had I been faced with the horror of my 3 year old child being molested......

So many people on here are saying that this 15 year old boy deserved what his father has done. Alot of you go on to say that " He's a Rapist in the making" " He will become a rapist" .
Truth be told, this is not always true. I was molested by a member of my family when i was a young girl and he was older than me. However when our family found out they didn't kill him or tell him that he is a rapist. They got him the help he needed. This man has a normal life and he's not a rapist, felon, murderer as many of you put it. I remember exactly what he did to me, I'm a very successful woman and mother to my own children. What happened to Jamar Jr. Should have never happened. He didn't even have a chance to explain why or even be judged by 12. it's sad for all parties and shame on you for saying this boy deserved to DIE!!!!!!

Where was Jamar mama while he was beating her son, watching him take of his cloths, as her son walked out of his room, out of the house and the field next door. Why did the on lookers not call the police, why was the mother not taking a attempt to help her son. Some type of reaction should have set in !!!! WHERE WERE THE CALLS FOR HELP.... She could have jumped on his back or kick him.... Something.... I think there should be additional people going to jail as well......

He snaped, and lost it, it is temporary insanity case.

This was a very disturbing case, I think it was premediated and he should've gotten life with no parol or the death sentence. He had no remorse and when the good Lord takes him I would like how he will explain the taking of a life.

Man what can I say besides he's going to get it...... they both were his kids he should have got his son some help

This trial stays on my mind, there are three people who will live with this the rest of their lives, something the rest of us will not. The father who I believe loved his son will never had a day that is normal, the mother will not either, in spite what she said about God and forgiveness, she is clearly vengeful (not that I blame her) and is connected to the father the rest of her life. I can see her at some point going to the father with questions and yes to grieve with him the lost of THEIR son.

Lastly, the little girl, she and her mother will perhaps suffer for the rest of their lives because this (I hope to be wrong but unless she is sheltered from the truth of her family, it will be difficult to reconcile), even with therapy they will always wonder if what happens in their lives is not connected to this. When the cameras are turned off they will all have to begin the process of grief all over again, from experience I know it is a long and often painful process, it can be neutralized with counseling and a loving environment.

I know many want the father under the jail, however this is reactionary and will only compound a family torn, it also will not satisfy the rest of us as we search for yet another person to vilify.

I feel that Ms. Ivey had something to do with this man killing his own flesh and blood there is not that much love in the world. So now he don't have a chance to see his daughter, son, or his girlfriend and you think she is going to be there for him I doubt it so what did he got out of doing all of that he is not God to jus up and take someone's life but, it isn't over because there is a thing called judgement day.