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February 19, 2010

Defendant's body language reveals clues?

Posted: 06:00 PM ET

Though Mark Schack hasn’t taken the stand yet, we’ve heard from him in his  9-1-1 call and through police audio. Investigators interviewed him following the shooting death of his long-time fiancé, Amy Boscarino.

His reaction to the playing of that tape in court may give clues to his guilt or innocence. Body language expert Patti Wood takes a look at Schack’s demeanor and shares her expert analysis with In Session host, Ryan Smith.

 Lynette Brown, In Session Associate Producer

Filed under: Trial Updates • Trials


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Rinette Draper   February 19th, 2010 6:27 pm ET

During police interview, Mark stated that he had never fired a gun before until now. Did he mean to say that he had fired the gun for the first time when he shot his common-law-wife that evenning? I am a little taken back on this statement of his...

Draper/UTAH


Manny HM   February 20th, 2010 12:19 pm ET

Ms Patti Wood is quite persuasive. I wonder though how her analysis would compare with functional MRI and the traditional lie detector.


Shell-Lee   February 22nd, 2010 1:55 am ET

Body language definitely reveals clues, in any situation. I think it is a good tool to use in many instances, not just homicide cases, or criminal cases.


mikka   February 22nd, 2010 1:00 pm ET

i believe from body language,you dont see somebody is guilty or innoncent!


Ron Howerton   February 22nd, 2010 3:32 pm ET

Using body language to determine guilt? What's next; phrenology?

A guy in CO was just awarded $4.1M for his false conviction due to some self-proclaimed expert's assertion that drawings and writing indicated violent tendencies. Justice is not based on hunches, circumstantial evidence, and expert musings!


flextones   February 22nd, 2010 4:50 pm ET

Gut feelings, experience and knowledge of many criminal cases are about as valid as a hunch based on body language. I think he shot her intentionally and is trying to get out of being convicted. That is based on my gut feelings, my experience in dealing with people and the knowledge I have acquired over the years of observing a lot of crime drama's and books about non-fictional and ficitional crimes. Plus my observations during my times of incarceration with convicts and inmates. I have been convicted of several misdemenors but never a felony myself. It is very easy to get into trouble, but very hard to get out of it. Mistakes happen all the time.


jeanne   February 22nd, 2010 4:57 pm ET

4.1 million is not enough to be wrongly jailed for a crime you did not committ....this other story is just another guy getting rid of his wife.....he'll probly get away with it like all the others....we need some really good detectives in this country....to many people getting away with killing, disposing and dissappearing children and wives.......sad


k.c.   February 24th, 2010 11:41 am ET

Mark Schack is GUILTY. He was jealous and insecure of his beautiful
girlfriend. Period. She is dead now because of his carelessness and lies. An "accident". No way! It was a well planned "incident'. The old
"I was cleaning the gun and it fell" excuse. He isa liar! The person who spoke this morning 2/24/10 in commentary said that there is no way that such a "freak" accident could happen She is right! Because it DIDN'T happen! He set the entire scene up and who in their right mind would EVER believe him! He is such a liar. Pathetic. She should still be alive. Because of his selfish greed and ignorance of thinking he could ever own her, she is now gone. Poor baby girl. She was beautiful.


Warren Thompson   February 24th, 2010 11:59 am ET

My apologies for posting this observation on diferent case. So here it is.

I thought that it was extremely telling that Schack managed to get his entire defense in on the 911 call.


kristin   February 24th, 2010 12:15 pm ET

Meg, the defense attorney that is commenting on this case, I think is very disrespectful to the memory of Amy and to her family and friends. She should definitely not be smiling in this matter. She is also acting as if she knew this couple personally. In my opinion it is very distasteful on her part.


Mike Thompson   February 24th, 2010 12:25 pm ET

Neither anyone's opinion on this page nor the opinion of IN SESSION itsself matters.
When did the days of just pure reports without opinions end? I only care about the case itsself and the verdict.


Marlene Nelson   February 24th, 2010 12:26 pm ET

Can it be determined how far the gun fell? It couldn't have fallen very far to hit the victim in the neck if she was standing. I smell a rat!!!!!


RagingBear   February 24th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

Just as I said in a previous comment, GUILTY!!!


ann   February 24th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

about the mark schack case my husband owns a 223 we had an incident he pulled the clip out handed it to me and checked the chamber thought empty sat gun with barrell facing the floor board of truck and gun let out 2 consecutive shots. wow can feel for mark cause i believe this could happen, we also never loaded the chamber we put the clip in and out.


Terri Heckman   February 24th, 2010 1:44 pm ET

Are you kidding me!!! This man could not even fake a tear. He tried and tried to force a tear out when they were playing the 911 call. What a forced emotion. I can't even stand to look at him. He is such a FAKE.


mike keeble   February 24th, 2010 1:57 pm ET

where was the cleaning kit and ammo for the gun on the dresser ?


Chris   February 24th, 2010 2:17 pm ET

I have been watching the trial of Mark Schack . I can't believe this man. I have been watching his facial expressions since the first day. OMG, this man is squinting so hard trying to force a tear out of his eyes; and those faces he is making. I wish he could see what he looks like on tv. When I listened to his interview with the detectives it reminded me much of how he is acting in ths courtroom. The on/off emotions. Clearly this man new what he was doing when he shot Amy. I think the only thing he is truly sorry for is that he got caught and that nobody believed this far fetched story of his. He belongs in jail.


Tara   February 24th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

If Marck Schack was aiming at his target(Amy) in the head and it hit her in the neck...how do you explain the hole in the living room wall?


carol kesling   February 24th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

i don't even own a gun, but who in the hell cleans and adjusts a gun when it is LOADED????? NOT !!!!!!!! this idiot is guilty as hell.....


sandra cutsinger   February 24th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

Listening to the 911 call, it is so obvious that schack is more concerned with establishing the" accident" theory of the event, rather than getting help for his girlfriend!! He is one guilty dude!!


manuel cortez   February 24th, 2010 2:59 pm ET

I wonder why he would aim for the center of the head if he wanted it to look like an accident. Also, he could have readjusted the scope's sights hoping not to be found out.


John Evans   February 24th, 2010 3:48 pm ET

This guy is such a liar! To adjust a scope on a rifle you need to first fire a round to find out where the bullit is going. After that you adjust the scope. As the gun was falling ,he was able to pull the trigger and eject the magazine! The magazine cant just fall out. You have to release it! If his hobbie is guns, he should know you dont load your weapon until you get to where you are going.


Rick Bailie   February 24th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

Have the detectives ever considered The possibility that he shot the bullet in the wall some time ago when he was alone and put something on the other side to catch the bullet, then on the night of the crime, shot her in plain view, went back and laid the weapon and the cartridge down?


ronhelm   February 24th, 2010 4:10 pm ET

Tara stated:if Marck Schack was aiming at his target(Amy) in the head and it hit her in the neck...how do you explain the hole in the living room wall?

The weapons expert testified that the gun shot low and to the right, and that would be through Amy's neck and shoulder, and the bullet then continued through the wall into the adjacent garage. This one in a million shot from the guest bedroom, through Amy and the wall, all on a flat trajectory, could never have been made with a "falling gun, accidentally triggered.


Dave Cooper   February 24th, 2010 4:11 pm ET

Amazingly Lee County Crine Scene investigator Walker testified that while test firing the weapon, it was determined that the Schack Rifle scope sighting was 3" X 1-1/2" out of center and thus aiming the cross hairs at the #1 in the forehead area of the target, resulted in a actual bullet strike in the neck area of the target. Backing up his statement using emblishments of his skill level as a professional and weapons expert.

Yet he also testified that he was capable of reconstructing a correct and dead on target ( by pointing and aligning the scopes crosshairs at the whole in the hallway wall) sighting angle, using the same scope propped on the dresser across the hall from the victim, which would have struck and penetrated the wall in the hallway, gone through it and inturn struck the victim, who was standing on the opposite side of the wall in her bedroom and out of the direct view of Mr. Schack. Schack would have needed x-ray vision. Pure nonsense on Walkers behalf...........either the scope sighting was off or it wasn't. Walkers testimony is questionable at the very best.......... The defense should pin point its cross examination of Walker on the merits of this conflicting testimony.


mike keeble   February 24th, 2010 9:22 pm ET

i dont know how the first round was chambered but he said iwas looking through the scope and personally i think he was aiming dead centre of her head and pulled the trigger expecting to hear a click and it went boom .and thats when the rifle fell off the dresser . how tall wasthe dresser.


Yuri   February 24th, 2010 10:34 pm ET

Don't know much about the case but I saw a detective on the show who was mumbling something about the Newtonian laws of motion trying to explain how the gun would not have cycled properly unless it was propped against the shooter's shoulder. The gun in question is gas operated, not recoil operated. It absolutely will properly cycle in mid air. Recoil operated rifles are rare.
From the glimpse I’ve caught the rifle is of a Galil pattern. If that is the case the gun almost certainly has no internal safeties and may very well fire when dropped with the manual safety disengaged.
One of the “improvements” Galil has over an original AK is an extended bracket that protects magazine catch and makes it very snag-proof. But I’ve seen more secure things coming apart on firearms on impact.
Adjusting the scope at home can and should be done as a first stage of zeroing. If the gun and/or scope mount design allow it.


kitty austin   February 24th, 2010 11:51 pm ET

I don't beleive Mark Schack accedentally shot anyone–he knew exactly what he was doing–how weird that she happened to be in close proximity to the gun whenit "dropped"


marcus from sc   February 25th, 2010 1:42 pm ET

This Is a open and close case he did it. Moncia might have had something to do with it to.. Where is CSI MAMI when you need it. Him and the waitess did.


T   February 25th, 2010 1:54 pm ET

hey i believe it was a accident even though all the firearm training he had. thier's a police that is training a class on youtube and he ended up shooting himself by a mistake imagine if that bullet would of strike one of the students


Sue V,   February 26th, 2010 2:05 pm ET

Has the verdict come in for this trial? I was watching yesterday (2/25) and it hadn't.


Kit   February 26th, 2010 5:04 pm ET

Why has the blood on the comforter, wall and magazine (in the closet) not been addressed? Seems perhaps he may have shot her, moved or checked her for a pulse and then gone back into the bedroom, picked up the gun from the bed, ejected the magazine and tossed it into the closet. This guy is not only a bad actor but must think the jury is comprised of idiots.


Violeta   March 3rd, 2010 1:21 pm ET

I belief that wos accident.Prosecutor dont have enough evidents to proof that he is guilty and charge him for second degree murder


Rebecca Jaquez   March 3rd, 2010 6:35 pm ET

I agree with Warren Thompson, Mark Schack is guilty. Who gives their whole defense story explaining what happened to a 911 operator unless he's guilty. You don't waste time you want to get help over there as soon as possible for your loved one.


Rebecca Jaquez   March 3rd, 2010 6:56 pm ET

His acting is terrible. Does he really think the jury is buying it? He is so pathetic. He should have committed suicide.


Becka   March 3rd, 2010 10:22 pm ET

How can he try to pretend to cry? It's only obvious that he's trying to make himself cry and be emotional. He is Guilty no doubt in my mind. Yes, he loved Amy, He loved her so much that he killed her because he could not have her in marriage. That's what he wanted he wanted her to marry him and he knew she was gaining her independence from him and was going to ultimately leave him because he was not accepted by her family and that was very important to Amy.


kathy herrmann   April 14th, 2010 5:59 pm ET

i just wonder what kind of picture this has left on the remainder of their children? when they grow up and have children are they going to chain them up because that's all they know? did mom and dad lead by example in that? it's a horror that just like child beating leaves an inelible mark.


helenamacha   May 31st, 2011 5:34 pm ET

vinnie I have followed this case since Nanacy Grace- but in todays
5/31-did you notice that Casey only had a hint of a smile- or tears- when someone was saying anything good or positive about her.maybe a few tears when her mother broke down-


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