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March 26, 2009

Investigator grilled in New Mexico triple murder case

Posted: 11:33 AM ET

ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico–One of the lead investigators in the triple homicide case against Brandon Craig admitted that some details in the eyewitness' testimony did not check out, and that the tactics police used to pressure the key witnesses to talk could have prompted them to lie.

Prosecutors claim Kevin Shirley, Matthew Hunt, and Luis Garcia were gunned down by Brandon Craig

Cold case investigator Larry Stebleton led the triple homicide investigation in 2004 and questioned all three eyewitnesses in the case. Prosecutors called Stebleton to introduce a video demonstrating the ease and speed of an AK-47 rifle–the suspected murder weapon, even in the hands of an inexperienced shooter. The gun used in the May 1999 homicides was never recovered.

But the greater part of Stebleton’s time on the witness stand was spent reinforcing defense assertions that the eyewitness testimony was uncorroborated and unreliable. Defense attorney David Kaplan pointed out inconsistencies in the government’s case, eliciting concessions from the detective that he could not confirm many details in the eyewitness testimony including the first party that the eyewitnesses said they went to before ending up at the Crawford home.

 The detective also conceded he failed to uncover any police records of a stolen truck that Jocelyn Schneider claimed she was using on the night of the homicides, a revelation made known to investigators on the eve of Craig’s trial. Noting her many lies to police, Kaplan asked the detective, “At this point you have to be asking yourself whether you can believe anything she says,” said Kaplan.

“Yes,” said Stebleton.

The trial resumes today with testimony from the state’s final witness, Craig’s friend Jeffrey Moore. Craig has pleaded not guilty to all charges in this case. The defense is expected to begin presenting evidence on Friday.

Stay tuned to In Session for continued live coverage of the trial.

–Grace Wong, In Session senior field producer

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Connie Burton   March 26th, 2009 12:19 pm ET

has anyone thought that maybe that SUV could have been there with Joselyn's mexican mafia friend? after all, she had to get her drugs from someone to sell them. and if they were from him maybe she snitch them out where they were and her mexican mafia friend did the shooting. and he is most likely they person she got her drugs from. Has anyone looked into him to see what vehicle he had at the time of the shootings?

kathi clark   March 26th, 2009 12:20 pm ET

I'm sorry but I could not lock Brandon Craig away for life on just the testimony of 3 lying drug doing criminals! Give me something besides that please! I need some evidence

Pat   March 26th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

If the Sweet Lord Jesus himself came down and said that Craig was guildt, Jami Floyd would demand more evidence. I think the whole bunch of druggies are guilty but Craig is the shooter.

Chris, Kenosha WI   March 26th, 2009 1:15 pm ET

My heart really goes out to all the family members and friends who have to sit and relive this tragedy so that justice can finally be served. I saw an interview yesterday with Kevin Shirley’s mother. I really commend Mrs. Shirley. She took what was probably the most horrific experience in her life, the brutal loss of her son and his friends, and turned it into something positive by going out and helping other victims of crime.

Faith TX   March 26th, 2009 2:23 pm ET

I don't know about anyone else but Jeffrey Moore has been fed ALL of the evidence the state says he provided!
This clearly has been a set up on Craig to me now. Jocelyn, Jeffrey, and Luke have ALL lied and/or taken part in this crime and they are all walking the streets! Oh me, oh my, Craig should be found not guilty and now who are they going to go after? since the State of NM has given the other 3 their freedom! This just makes me sick!
None of the 3 have told the truth about anything! Jocelyn especially, her fake tears, come on already! And I don't care if you call your momma or not, she's a criminal magnet! She can't keep her hinny out of trouble!
Craig has a great defense attorney! She's done her homework and there ain't nothing getting by her. She has hung all 3 of them out to dry. And the State of NM, well that's a joke! I wonder how many "get out of jail cards" they have handed out over the years? That's just crazy in my opinion. Everyone of the 3 should have been prosecuted if they say they were there and saw the whole thing, then they are accomplices to a murder! I think one of them did it honestly. And Craig is the scape-goat. Oh, him not showing emotion I'm sure his attorney has guided him on what and what not to do. That's not a guilty verdict to me based on looks, tatoos, emotions. Evidence is the key here. And the state ain't got none, zero after today's testimony.

Charles   March 26th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

I would not want to be a member of this jury. I could not in good conscious or following the burden of proof justify sending this person to prison for life based on any of the testimony so far. The 3 main witnesses have 0 credibility. Police officers continuously crossed the line even going as far as telling the neighbors of the last prosecutors witness, Jeffery Moore was a child molester as just one of many tactics to apply pressure on him. The defense has shown today a direct connection between what evidence the police provided Jeffery Moore and now what he is saying happened that night.

Mary, FL   March 26th, 2009 3:28 pm ET

It is so sad that our justice system works like this. They arrested Brandon on account of these 3 people who aren't credible whatsoever. Jeff Moore may not have talked to the others since 2000 or 2001, but the police told him everything. Let's use our brains here. I truly believe BC didn't pull the trigger, my guess is that Luke did. Can't wait to see the defense witnesses!

Kathie, Ontario. Canada   March 26th, 2009 3:38 pm ET

It is so disturbing to sit here and watch excuses being
made for these lying prosecution witnesses one after
the other, by the anchors and commentators.
These were not your sunday go to church goody two
shoes kids. One was dealing drugs for the Mexican
Mafia and the other all had records too., and jumped
at plea deals. If these liars were put on by the defense
you wouldn't be so forgiving and understanding.
Would you be so willing to turn a blind eye to this kind
of police conduct too, if it was you or one of your
loved ones they were going after? I doubt it.

Dennis Sirman   March 26th, 2009 3:47 pm ET

Faith (from TX) is right on! Jeff Moore got his info from the investigators. Now, several other points not previously made: Did Jocylyn know Brandon in May 1999 ro NOT? I haven't heard the difinitive answer on that. There would certainly be other witnesses to that. Second: Did Brandon ever have an AK or SKS in his possession prior to the murders - got to be some input on that? Third: Were they or were they NOT at the fathers house to cut up the gun? Fourth: Would an AK or SKS with clip fit beneath the seat (unseen) of the pickup alleged to be the vehicle - not sure on that one. Moore does not describe the "chase" and subsequent stoppage of the victim's car - another inconsistency. I think Brandon committed the crime but there are too many holes in the testimony. Jocylyn - Mexican Mafia? Are you kidding. I wanna see the lawyers tie this one up for the jury.

Dennis Sirman   March 26th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

Hell, they might not need any defense witnesses after the lack of cred by the state's witnesses.

Donna Kramer   March 26th, 2009 3:53 pm ET

I think they should lock all of them up for the rest of their lives arent we all taught by our parents to tell the truth well now that they have all been given ammunity are we supposed to believe that what they are telling now is the truth I think not...

Salem Va

Sean   March 26th, 2009 4:46 pm ET

I feel very sad for the families that are affected by this tragedy. The hard part for me is that I have children that have been in the same position as the 3 victims, under peer pressure to go to a party and hang out with the "cool " crowd. I actually did the same thing when I was their age and NEVER thought of being executed for owing someone money.
The defense attorney is dragging out the prosecution and trying to cross up this last witness and wasting tax payers $$. But I guess if it were me in the accused position I would want the same thing. It is just frustrating to hear this rambling on about events that happened up to 10 years back. The bottom line is that 3 witnesses that have not collaborated about these events are testifying to the best of their ability, based on their memory of incidents that happened. I live in San Diego and I live in fear about the current border situation.

Dave R   March 26th, 2009 4:53 pm ET

I find the trial fascinating - watch it when I can at work. It's great that CNN is carrying it live - very informative on the legal process. Don't know how they chose to cover this particular trial - I stumbled on the video quite by accident and had never heard of the case before here in Michigan.

No matter how this turns out, you're looking at damaged lives resulting from poor choices on drugs and alcohol. All of them likely are from very disfunctional familities.

The sad thing is that the three who were killed didn't even get the chance to live out any life

Dave R   March 26th, 2009 5:12 pm ET

Let me add another comment....

I wish we could see the exhibits being shown to the jury. If I were sitting in the court room, I presumably could be seeing them.

For example the drawing of the murder scene with the car and the truck. Why can't you show that CNN?

I don't see how the two vehicles could end up facing each other without have some more information from the witnesses.

Yes, will wait for the defense to present its case, but it doesn't look good for any of them. Even the three who "got a deal" will still have to live with themselves

Pam   March 26th, 2009 5:45 pm ET

I've been trying to put myself in the shoes of Jocelyn, Luke and Jeff, I would have remembered every detail regarding that night from when the first bullet rang out to when I was sitting in the witness box. To me, that would have to be the most horrific thing I would have experienced in my life and probably could include entire life. I understand time has passed, but I wouldn't have been able to sleep, eat, or really function. I wonder if Jocelyn and Luke have anything in writting from the States Attorneys office, stating they would not be charged in the case? If I were them I hope so, because who knows, maybe we could be watching those two on Court TV in the future.

John Lennon   March 26th, 2009 6:04 pm ET

I have to agree with Faith from Tx . These three losers belong behind bars. Did anyone catch the testimony that was said that Craig got the rifle out from under the passenger seat and now Jeff Moore said he got it from the drivers side??? All three of these druggies are so full of crap it`s unreal!!! Like Mary said, Luke might have been the trigger puller, and i also think the mexican mafia could have done it cause they are more likely to do something like that for $500 dollars. Faith, do you agree with that??

Joe Frankline   March 26th, 2009 6:32 pm ET

Regarding the witnesses records; they were kids at the time of the murders. They didn't have the records back then. Don't you think seeing someone that you're with gun down three people wouldn't scare the living hell out of you? Do you think that seeing something like that might drive you even further into a lifestyle of drugs? How about the fact that BCraig is older than Luke and Jocelyn. His stories of being a Navy Seal would frighten young kids like that and scare the tar out of them, especially when you add the threat of him coming after you.

Regarding their PREVIOUS statements to police and denying know Craig, if you're Jocelyn, WOULDN'T you say you didn't even know him if you're trying to avoid questions about the murder?

Regarding Jocelyn's plea, I thought she turned down the plea bargain and the victim in that case asked the judge to give her probation. You can google that.

I don't think we will see Craig's sneaky butt on the witness chair.

pamela devereux   March 26th, 2009 7:50 pm ET

Those boys were ambushed in that car. Brandon Craig is a sociopath, a coward and a killer. If there ever was a case that qualified for the death penalty, this is it!

Ron G.   March 27th, 2009 9:35 am ET

Friends and family of the victims have waited 10 years for this trial. They want somebody/anybody to be convicted. However, the penalty for perjury is minimal compared to the aiding/abetting in a triple homicide. There is absolutely no way that any credence can be given to the testimony of the three "eyewitnesses" except their willingness to admit that they are liars and drug abusers.

jada   March 27th, 2009 11:09 am ET

I am from Albuquerque. I was a student with and friend of the victims. This tragedy has taken a toll on so many families including the Craig's whose family my sympathy goes out to also.(they are good people) I do not wish to comment on wether I think he did it or not I just hope this is done correctly but quickly and we can finally put this case to rest. Nothing will bring our friends back but at least maybe after this we can feel a small sense of justice.

Kathie, Ontario. Canada   March 27th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

I heard the lawyer who was standing in for Lisa Bloom say,
"if the defendant didn't do it who did "? How about the guy
who supplied the female witness with the drugs , who had
the connections with the Mexican cartell? Maybe, he
was driving the black SUV and had the assault weapon.
Doesn't this type of overkill just smack of the way people
are being killed south of the border. Makes sense she
would be afraid to implicate him in this crime and want to
pin it on someone like the defendant.

Sheila Hastings   March 27th, 2009 1:06 pm ET

You have to remember that most of the witnesses from Craigs past were drug users... and unless they kept a journal, I don't think any of them could remember exact places they were at or dates things happened at the time of the murders. I know I wouldn't remember where, when, and who all attended a party I was at 10 years ago! But, if I was present when someone was murdered, I would vividly remember that! I say guilty!

Faith TX   March 27th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

John-I agree it could have been the mexican mofia's doing. Hearing that Brandon was Jocelyn's "boyfriend" after Luke, there could be some resentment on Luke's part. And hell hath no fury like a women/girl scorned. Jocelyn the type that anything could have happened to set her off. The gun issue is a huge issue with me. Where in the hell was the thing in the truck? Driver's side or passenger side? Where did it come from?

I would really like to know where all the comments on Craig's demeanor comes from? His looks, eyes, coldness mean nothing to me. The evidence is the key here nothing else. People draw conclusions based on news stories, tv media, newspaper articles, internet articles, etc. I always keep in mind that someone is innocent until proven guilty. In this case so far to date, there hasn't been anything to get to accept that Craig did this crime.

10,20,30 years I don't care how long, if someone take an assault weapon and shoot and killed someone or numerous people and I witnessed it, there would be no way on earth I would be able to forget it! I would be able to tell in detail what I saw, heard, smelled, tasted etc. That's a devasting event and you just don't bury that in the back of your memory.

yasmeen   March 27th, 2009 2:13 pm ET

Wow this is serious i can't believe that there is so much violence in the word i just don't under stand .... wow

Lawrence   March 27th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

......I would like to know why the prosecution isn't asking the Datson expert, if the "tow truck driver" couldn't have messed the fender up on the orange B210. And thats why there isn't any wear on the tire.

jayrock , new york   March 27th, 2009 2:49 pm ET

People This Is A Commonsense Case, If I Witnessed a Homicide Of This Nature I Would Of Went To The Police Immediatly, Whether if i was an accomplished or an eyewitness either way i would of gotten a deal, so whether if these 3 witness'es was scared or not who knows, With there lies and deceits they was truely coached by the state to convict someone innocent of this crime so someone can be held accountable... There is the witness protection program if they was that scared of brandon craig so yes he is innocent

concerned   March 31st, 2009 9:53 am ET

The one thing that gets me is why they didn't call joselyn's boy friend at the time they said this happens .Who's to say it wasn't him not Craig that did the shooting .But personally i think it was Luke Morris that did it .If he didn't then why was Joselyn so scared of him and his sister told her he's locked up she didn't have to worry any more.

Irene   April 1st, 2009 9:52 am ET

I would like to know what happen to this truck or suv that was used in this shotting, And why are there not three on trail for this shotting.

Ryan   April 1st, 2009 3:52 pm ET

I am not saying that Brandon Craig is innocent but i have seen a lot of trials involving murders. The case that the state presented is weak. Thy didnt pove that Brandon is guilty of this crime. The wittnesss they put on the stand are weak and all shady. I feel very confident that this case will come back as NOT GUILTY or a HUNG JURY.

Randy   April 1st, 2009 8:18 pm ET

Jeff Moore is a clown. I would not trust him with 4 pounds of rust in a bucket. I knew Brandon would walk. It was a case of the cops looking to close an old case with 3 idiots as their winning hand. Maybe Brandon did pull the trigger, I think not. I smell a rat here.

The fact that 3 different residents saw 2 different trucks/ Cars leaving the same area leads me to belive someone else had a hand in this. And it was not Jeff Moore. He is to stupid to to follow a herd of sheep.

I just felt thru the whole trial the 3 idiots were looking to save the butts of themselves.

Randy   April 1st, 2009 11:11 pm ET

I also think like many. Who would have scared YOU for 7 years and held you from coming forward. Not Brandon. Most sane people would have sought out a plea and safe haven to lock up the killer. The 3 stooges did not. Jesus..What a sham the State put on here to close an old case. Fail.

RANDY BRIDGEMAN   April 2nd, 2009 9:58 am ET

Another OJ scenario. Mr. Craig is as guilty as sin. Got away with murder-literally. Even bad people are able to tell the truth sometimes. I will go to my grave believing that the three eyewitnesses told the truth about the triple murders. I suspect that many unrepentant lawyers will populate Hell. Perhaps our system of justice needs to revisit the double jeopardy concept. Mr. Craig will rot in Hell too if he doesn't repent of the horrific slaughter of three precious young lives.

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