Astro-nut

I do believe that Nowak is guilty. She planned and carried out her task. I do believe that the male astronaut is co-guilty for leading her on. Should he had refused her or not come on to her then the anger would be between him and her and probably disolved without so much publicity. She is in Corpus at a training base, she shouldn't be allowed to interact with the other military personnel on the base.

Feel sorry for her? Not on your life, she's a nut that needs to be put away to protect everyone. Who knows who she'll go off on next time. It could even be you!!

Sure, show her some compassion and give her a slap on the wrist. I wonder Jami, would you promote the same compassion if this were a man who drove across the country to confront a male rival of his?
We should pat her on the head, tell her how sorry we are and let her go on her way. Maybe next time, she'll decide Jami is after her man.

Do I feel badly for her? I do. I feel badly for her kids and the rest of her family, for her intended victim, as well. As Kathy of Baytown pointed out, I do wonder about the culpability of the male here but, as someone who did graduate work in psychology, I don't think it's usually all that useful to blame one person's insane acts upon another.

But – as a white professional woman – I notice that when it's a successful woman, especially a white one, who gets into a situation such as this, we as a society are far more likely to feel sympathy for her than we would a male or (perhaps strangely) a woman of less circumstances (and/or less white).

Mind you, I WANT us as a society to understand how minds break and to feel compassion. I do wish such compassion, however, would get more universally applied.

That was then, this is now. Consequences for HER actions. She had help available to her.....all she had to do was ask. We could apply this compassion you speak of to all the women who have killed their adulterous husbands, to all the men who killed their adulterous wives. I could name cases in point but there would be too many.....the law is to protect innocent people. The law is to punish offenders who choose to take that into their own hands, don't get the help that is available to them. Jami there are counselors everywhere, medical, church, community groups, military, etc. Is she remorseful?

thats what she gets for adultry.

Jami Jami Jami,
"Affair of the heart"??? we are not talking about some late night phone calls, nasty letters, or even a boiling bunny! This woman had ropes and torture devices with her and actually approached the victim with intent to carry out the plan. She did not have a change of heart...she was stopped. That is the pivotal question that must be asked when "forgiveness" is considered. Did she stop herself or was stopped?

Also,"her personal life spinning horribly out of control?" If all jilted lovers resorted to this response and we forgave them all, this world would not be a safe place.

Of course I feel badly for her. However, the only guilty party is the male who played her for a fiddle. Why do men believe that they can incite and engage two women at the same time and believe that this is acceptable to the females? This happens too frequently, and quite frankly they need to accept responsibility. For the record, I found my husband in bed with another woman, so I called the police. So guess who the cops were harrassing? Me. They said I had better not instigate any fights because they would have to come and arrest me! According to them, the other female claimed that she was afraid of me. How unkind of me for not having sympathy for her.

I don't feel sorry for her. She did the "Crime" – "Do The Time".

Why would her boyfriend be culpable in any legal or moral way? Should he have somehow known that if he expressed some kind of interest in Nowak, she'd drive 1000 miles in a diaper with everything one might need to kill another and dispose of the body?

Feel sorry for her? A top notch astronaut should be excused? Prison may not be the answer in this "affair of the heart "? Compassion?

Yeah, right, maybe not a star, but a real professional WAS rising! This woman drove 1000 miles in a DIAPER and armed with all the articles that were necessary for her next mission – a premeditated plan for murder!

This is one case – which I think we can all agree – calls for 3...2...1...BLAST OFF to prison. And that’s the Last Word : (

She is clearly short of faculties and in a heart sick rage...

As was Gein, Daughmer, Bundy, Lucas, and thousands of other people who commited wicked crimes... she just didn't finish.

I agree that we should not put her away in Prison but rather get her the medical help that she needs, prison is not the answer for someone who needs help.

relationships will come and go,,, family n friends stick by you,, thats what i always have said,, but lisa nowak,,, is totally out of her mind,,, couldnt she find a man of her own??????? she gives us women a bad name,,,,like desperate,,,,, im not completely sure she was married,, i never heard she was,, and if she was,,, shame on her,, she destroyed peoples lives,, and with this person she was interested in,, couldnt HE tell her,, that there wasnt any feelings for her...
she had a great career and ruined it,,, so i say,,, put her in jail or somewhere to get help,,,,,,

I don't think you would be sooo.... sympathetic to her if her plans were carried out. A woman would be dead right now! Turns out, she was a great astronaut but a bad criminal. She got caught and thank God for that. As for her family breaking up? That was her choice. She abandoned them to drive clear across country to kill another woman...over a "man"? Same story we hear everyday all over the world. Only difference here is that she happens to be an astronaut. Same justice for all is the way it should be. Whether a teacher, a banker, a homemaker..... or even an astronaut.

if she had not been stopped, that lady could be dead today...

Really? This is a country where people who are raised and live in hell are routinely sentenced to life in prison for armed robbery and you choose a women with a good life and job who made the choice to premeditatedly drive across the country to kidnap and kill another person in cold blood as your sympathy case? If you think you would be posting this if she was a man your delusional.

Jami has got to be OUT OF HER MIND to take sides with this loose cannon!! She DESERVES to be in Prison before she follows through with killing someone. She blew any rights when she stalked that woman and drove across country with the necessary items to MURDER someone plus driving across the country in a Freakin diaper so she didn't have to stop so she could hurry up and comitt the murder. I say FRY HER!!!

If O.J. Simpson had been stopped before actually slaughtering his wife and innocent good samaritan, would you have said the same: great career down the tubes, life unraveling, an affair of the heart? Gimme a break. Is anyone who murders or attempts to murder and fails, really ever sane? Why this double standard?

What type of personality is it that allows someone to put a man or woman before their children. The only compassion here should be for the happy lives she and her lover stole from their families.

Aw, compassion yes. Should she be given a slap on the wrist and let go? No way. She needs serious psychological counseling for her obsessive behavior. I am surprised it did not show up in her psych testing at NASA. She also needs to serve time for her behavior. She knew it was wrong.

None of us know the true circumstances of what happened and we cannot get into her head for clarification but clearly she is deeply disturbed. Punish her but get her help also.

No, I dont feel sorry for her at all! Mature, educated, married, 3 children and THIS! I All I could agree to is that she is obviously disturbed person and need some profesional help but she knew what she was doing and she ment something BAD. Astronaut or not justes supposedly is blind! I listen to You, Jamie, on TV and according to You nobody is ever guilty – all those crimes just happened! And your gurrulessenes! It takes you for ever to ask your guest simple question! But I admire your wardrobe.

Where is the compassion for another human being confused or not? I think this man made her crazy with jealousy, after all, he was also guilty of having an affair with this married woman, did he not? Sure, this woman should have controlled herself and act with pride and self respect, but passion makes people loose their heads, "crime of passion". Good thing she did not carry on with her intentions, though I really do not believe this woman had murderous intentions, but to cause terror to the other woman, who is also not so innocent of having an affair with the man that I am sure she knew had this lover.
Why cast rocks at this woman that has lost everyting? The other two are still enjoying, are we not all sinners? We can not judge what goes in some one else's heart and brain, people. Have compassion! I do fell sorry for this woman.

First, the male involved had an affair with Lisa but she wouldn't accept that it was over. I do not have sympathy for her because she had to know it was wrong, but how did she know when the victim was coming in on that particular plane?

Jami, I think you are off the mark here. My cousin, who has passed, was a long time NASA engineer. Women had to far exceed any expectactions of the men. She has put women in the government/NASA way, way back. In a way I blame the psychological screening system; they admit there was virtually none. As to the crime, Nowak need to do the time. The object of her fury could have been any female that she saw as a threat to her love life or even her professional career. She was married with children. What was she thinking. Maybe the tot mom, Casey Anthony , is cut out of the same cloth.

With the conviction of Nathan Lee, guilty of killing his girlfriend outside of church, he claims he just wanted to talk to her, did not intend to kill her. Do you have this same compassion for him and that he should not have to pay the consequenses, or receive a light sentence. He loved her so much he says. He wanted her back.......Pity no one was able to stop him before "he tried talking" to her.....

Wow, I love the posts demanding the boyfriend take responsibility,

Let's see if I understand this. The boyfriend cheated on her so he is responsible for her insanity.
What if the boyfriend cheated because his wife left him for another man. Should his wife be held responsible?
What if his wife dumped him because of a trauma as a child, step-father raped him. Should the step-father be held responsible?

How far back do we go?

Quit making excuses everyone. She should take responsibility for her own actions. No compassion for her. Give her a diaper and lock her up.

I'm always amazed when people blame their actions on others. Yes... Nowak may have been played like a fiddle. This doesn't mean you haul off to abduct the other woman. She had A bag full of tricks she was planning on using on Shipman.

Oefelein may have been a player but it was Nowak and Nowak alone who tried to pull off the deed. She should be punished.

If it were a man he would still be in jail awaiting trial IMO (And I'm a female writing this.)

Premeditation. Stalking. Harassment. The light sentence thing was facetious, right??

All criminals are victims of society. No one should ever be held responsible for any crime. All cases should be decided by doctors on the treatment. Criminals should be rehabilitated in their own home under supervision of psychologists. They should receive dental insurance and child care and reproductive rights.

Whoa, I'm getting dizzy after reading Jami's spin cycle on this. She is worst than a cheap ride at the amusement park.

She screwed up big time. Time to pay the piper. It's not like she did not understand logic and the possible end results of her actions. I hate it for her, more so for her victim and all involved, but she can get her counseling in prison.

No sympathy. She bought all her troubles on herself because she stepped out on her husband and got invovled with a man that didn't give a damn for her. She's a nutjob and she needs to be put away for a long time!

I find some of your comments pathetic. I do not feel sorry for any adult who makes a bad choice. She was old enough to know the consequences of her actions. What I find disgusting is the man isn't facing any real consequences. But that's the American Way. I don't disagree that she needs some serious therapy, but she is an adult and made her choice. I find some of these "Last Word" comments by Jami shallow and not deep at all.. Anyone who drives hundreds of miles wearing a diaper does not deserve my sympathy, she belongs in the nut hut. As an ex-service-woman, she has made females in the service, either officer or enlisted look stupid, pathetic and catty. Women in the service have to work harder than men to prove themselves, She catapulted woman back to the 50's with this stunt. I hope she is proud of herself. Do I feel sorry for her, I think not, now to get the man involved in this on equal ground, then we will have accomplished something.

Just goes to show you, with all the Psych evaluations, they can still slip through the net.

Compassion?
Ok if you are educated and you commit a crime you should not go to jail?
She traveled across the country, and had plenty of time to think. This is a planned action. The fact that she is educated is all the more reason she needs to do the max. She knew there would be punishment for her actions but like most criminals she didn't care. Sell weed go to jail but plan a kidnapping and travel cross country wearing diapers no jail time.
If you are saying that her status in life should give her a pass then, what are you really saying.

wow this lady should be thrown in jail for life

Feel sorry for her?? Not at all!! Do you think she feels sorry for her waste of the tax-payers money to train her for that trusted position....or ..the male astronought responsible for this whole mess! If I had my way these two people that took advantage of this gifted program should ..."Pay the Taxpayers Back the Money Spent on the Training they Received" then we could train someone with scruples and dignity !!! Does any one else want to see them repay the taxpayers for the cost of training they will NEVER use???

I cannot feel sorry for the Nowak....Only the very silly & immature, would behave as she did....The real question is how did she get into the Astronaut Program in the first place...?

Really??!! Having grown up in EXTREME poverty, I personally feel there is no excuse for the criminal behavior exhibited by Mrs. Nowak. As a child we went to bed hungry many nights, should we have been excused had we stolen in order to take care of our basic needs and someone was hurt in the process? She had so many resources available to her.... and apparently still has. What is wrong with our society! We should feel sorry for a jealous adultress with homicidal tendencies? Sometimes I am really ashamed.

There is no question she belongs in prison. This was not an affair of the heart. She drove halfway across the country to (at the very least) harm the "other woman". As for the male astronaut, HE did not break any laws.

Feel sorry??? How can anyone say that? I too have serious mental illnesses. No one felt sorry for me, I went to jail! I went to jail because I committed a crime, in fact I committed 3 crimes, one of them almost cost the life of my son.

I relive being raped by my father, seeing him shoot my mother in the head, getting a man's guts in my face and mouth after walking into a North Korean mine field, blowing a 16 year old's brains out in Pamama! I didn't get any help for my issues. I was twice admitted to a VA facility and my issues were never addressed, the doctors seemed more concerned that I smoked pot because they refused to give me medicine to help me sleep!

It seems the only time an issue arises with mental health is when someone famous or rich has broken the law. Us regular people in the real world do not have the luxury of fame or fortune, we just go to jails and prisons. Our illnesses are not even discussed, the only fact considered is we broke the law. Why then should I feel sorry for her? Yes, I agree she has some issues, probably serious issues but where I ask (again) is this discussion when it comes to the every day people, the poor, the homeless, the helpless?

What??!!

No need for you to feel ashamed. The idea of compassion for this poor, mistreated, rich, highly trained astronaut is only in Jami Floyd's mind. As you can see from the posts, she is in the minority. Feel ashamed for Jami, as her editors should.

I don't feel sorry for this woman at all she knew what she was doing.
This just makes all women look bad and that is a fact.

Compassion? Yes, BUT for the victim who survived and the children and family of Mrs. Nowak – NOT Lisa Nowak. So WHAT if she is an educated woman and famous astronaut, she is a criminal and stalker. Because she is educated she HAD to have known there are consequences for criminal actions at some point she was willing to take that risk. If she were a man stalking his ex-girlfriend or his rival they would throw the book at him. I say let her face the music like anyone else would have to.

Desperate people do desperate things. She should be held responsible for her actions.