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September 15, 2008

O.J. Simpson presumed innocent

Posted: 01:16 PM ET

NEW YORK - So O.J. Simpson is back on trial and wants us to believe he's innocent, all over again. Can you believe that? Well I can. And I will presume Simpson innocent until the state proves him guilty in this case.

Because the presumption of innocence is not about Simpson. And it's not about me, or you, or any one individual. The presumption is about our country and what it stands for. Think about it, if you lived in another country, most other countries in fact, and were arrested for a crime you would be presumed guilty. It would be your burden to prove your innocence. Not an easy thing to do when you're just one person up against the power and persuasive resources of the government.

In this country, not so. Freedom is our most cherished value. And for the state to take it away? Well, they have to work at it. In every case, even this one. So you may not like O.J. Simpson. You may even think he's guilty in this case. Or the last one. Or the one before that. But take away his right to a fair trial and you take away that right for all of us. And that's the Last Word.

-Jami Floyd, In Session anchor

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kiki   September 15th, 2008 1:56 pm ET

already in the opening, the defense lawyer clearly hasn't done his research–he has adamantly stated that what the trial is about is NOT memorablia–when the definition clearly states that memorablia as "Objects that are connected to or remind their owner of past events. " Maybe not SPORTS memorablia, but memorablia nonetheless...makes a "13th juror" like myself start to second guess other "statements of fact" by the defense...

Kerry   September 15th, 2008 2:04 pm ET

Living in Texas I can completely agree with Ms. Floyd's comments. I find it a shame that it has to be said again. People are so quick to act and judge without a fair review of all the evidence. I wish Ms. Floyd would have gone on to say that only someone like OJ Simpson can get a fair shot in this country. Most folks charged with a crime face the gov't without the same resources and legal expertice that they have paid for by the citizens being charged with crimes! It is so disporportionate here that most defendants never even see the courtroom let alone have the prosecution prove the charges are even appropriate to the alleged crime. We all want law and order, but at what price?

Sherri   September 15th, 2008 2:14 pm ET

This is stupid!!!! If it were Mr. Smith that lived in little town USA , made $30,000 a year that went in to someones home with a gun and removed items he claims are his he would be under the jail. Mr. Simpson said he went ot the police and the FBI and they refused to help, well then file a lawsuit (He sould know a little about lawsuites from his past). The police can't just take his word that these items are his. Just because he is O. J. Simpson doesn't give him the right to do whatever he wants. He needs to learn to do things the legal way.

Rose   September 15th, 2008 2:16 pm ET

This immature man, just needs to grow up, as old as he is
you would think he would stop trying to get attention. He is
not even news worthy anymore.

Randall Scott   September 15th, 2008 2:19 pm ET

No possibility O.J. can be presumed not guilty when the prosecution mentions the items were being hidden in storage from the Goldmans. That in my opinion makes the jury think of the murderers.

Dolores~   September 15th, 2008 2:43 pm ET

Where is OJ getting all this money for all these high-priced attorney's for all these court cases?

martha   September 15th, 2008 2:47 pm ET

There is no doubt that C.J. should be tried separately. The legal system is determined to get even with O.J., for the acquittal in his murder trial. Noone else would have been charged with all the felonies that O.J. was. If they manage to get a conviction this time, C.J. will go down with him. I seriously doubt that they have a truly impartial jury. Most of them I'm sure didn't not answer the questions honestly. I think this was a complete setup by his so called friends. They sure did jump ship fast enough. There will be NO fair triall here!!!!

yolie avila   September 15th, 2008 2:56 pm ET

GOD HELP ME IF SOMEONE STEALS MY STUFF AND I CAN'T TRY TO GET THEM BACK, IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN THEN EVERYONE IS IN TROUBLE, BECAUSE THIS CAN BE USE AGAINST YOU AT A LATER TIME.

BEWARE IF OJ FOUND GULITY THIS NEW LAW CAN CAUSE YOU HARM SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE.

THE JURORS NEED TO SEE HOW IMPORTANT THIS CASE IS TO SOCIETY

LONNIE   September 15th, 2008 3:21 pm ET

IF OJ IS FOUND GUILTY, IT WILL NOT AFFECT SOCIETY, LIKE YOLIE CLAIMS. ANYONE WHO GOES INTO A DWELLING THAT IS NOT THEIRS, WITH GUNS AND EXTRA MUSCLE, SHOULD BE FOUND GUILTY OF ARMED ROBBERY, ASSULT AND BE PUT UNDER THE JAIL FOR LIFE. WE HAVE A COURT SYSTEM THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED OJ GET HIS THINGS BACK, IF IN FACT THEY ARE HIS TO BEGIN WITH. TAKING THE LAW INTO YOUR OWN HANDS IS AGAINST THE LAW, AND NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW, ESPECIALLY OJ SIMPSON.

Vivian   September 15th, 2008 3:29 pm ET

If one's personal property is stolen and that person become aware of who stole it and where it is, the prudent person contacts either law enforcement and/or an attorney. One cannot retrieve their property by force. Simpson has attorneys on retainer and at his beck and call. Only an incredibly stupid person would think it OK to force their way into a room, threaten people with words and guns and take property.

CJ   September 15th, 2008 3:50 pm ET

Yale Galanter may be a great attorney but from listening to his opening statement he is either unprepared or outright untruthful. He went on and on about the items being "personal photographs" of OJ Simpson with no mention of the signed footballs or anything else in that room that was taken. He also claimed that police and the FBI refused to help when it was stated last year at the time of the crime that law enforcement told them it was a cival case and they needed to contact their attorney. And Yolie needs to think about how it would be if you borrowed or even took your friends lawnmower and that friend stormed in with guns to get it back. Our society does not allow people to rush in waiving guns around no matter how right they think they are. We have courts and laws to handle those cases. Of course OJ hasn't got a very good record in civil court.

Linda   September 15th, 2008 4:06 pm ET

Presume OJ is Innocent until proven Guilty. At some point perhaps you have to start looking at the past behavior of the person and ask yourself is this the behavior of a innocent person..This must be the case because in Knoxville, TN the past behavior of the vicitm and defendent was of big issue. If looking at your past behavior is the way to decide if you are guilty or innocent, I dont think he has a snowballs chance.

Miriam   September 15th, 2008 4:10 pm ET

Who is OJ Simpson anyway? He's just an american. Why the interest in him? He is not any different than any other person in this country. I am not sure why this trial is even televised. There are so many other more important issues being tried right now. The media just needs to stop giving him unnecessary attention. Usually that will help with the shenanigans and they may stop.....

T Ho   September 15th, 2008 4:13 pm ET

All the media including CNN should reduce their coverage on this OJ case to the minimum. Many people like me are sick and tired of the media's conduct in blowing up a "Mickey Mouse" (no offense to M.M.) case into a "sensation". Grow up!

silver   September 15th, 2008 4:39 pm ET

Why don't you people give viewers a choice of trials. I know that I will not watch any of this fiasco for the next month or ever how long it last. Court TV was much better before CNN took over.

Michele   September 15th, 2008 4:58 pm ET

I think one way or another he'll pay for his crimes he's stupid enough to keep committing them....maybe not the murder but one day because of his arrogance and ridiculous choices he'll fall into is own trap.......criminals only stay out of the loop so long......they can't help themselves their stupid

diane   September 15th, 2008 6:06 pm ET

I wish they had a third choice on the 13th juror question.....like.......who cares!!!!

tami   September 15th, 2008 7:18 pm ET

This man needs to grow up....now! At his age, he should be enjoying his grandchildren, not acting like a THUG.....

Crash   September 15th, 2008 7:35 pm ET

To answer an earlier question about OJ's money; he gets about 400k a year from the NFL players pension fund.

Mark   September 15th, 2008 9:30 pm ET

Presumed innocent. Confirmed incredibly stupid. Like a long Dostevsky novel, justice has finally caught up with Simpson through his own doing. Orange is a good color for OJ (no pun intended but it does works). He'll look really, really good in it.

Pat   September 15th, 2008 11:09 pm ET

Jamie is right, except you have to
understand why this had to be a covert operation, "GREED".

OJ couldn't go to court, he has a $33 million dollar judgment
It would all have belong to Fred Goldman, as it will now, – win lose or draw after the verdict, and the police release all the evidence.
Why isn't the DA bring in the so
called 'Manager' to ask him did you steal the property, or was it given to you to hide, sale or
return later? Only the girl friend
gave it away because it was in
her storage space....threw a wrench in the cogs......

Ross J   September 15th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Common sense must apply and that tells me there is no way OJ could not have known guns were going to be there and guns were there and pulled. He put himsef there, he brought people there to intimidate in a thug way, with guns. That is the bottom line. It does not matter the character of the witness's, one thing that is clear is that guns were there and used to intimidate and OJ right there. Case closed, conviction, accept to those who want to use excuses and smoke to cloud the obvious, which is exactly what the defense of OJ is there to do. Please Jamie, don't insult my intelligence. Some things are just to obvious that common sense can see.
Ross J.

patricia   September 15th, 2008 11:14 pm ET

Can anyone tell me if the O.J trial is broadcasted on cnn...

truthful thinking   September 16th, 2008 1:35 am ET

huh i'm wondering how many of you guys was flies and the wall that heard oj tell the other people to bring guns i havent heard any taping of oj saying bring guns with us but you say oj is guilty before all the fact are in front of you i wonder how many of you was jurors on those trials in texas where people was falsely imprisoned. Remember your hatred of this man shows he cant get a fair trial anywhere in this country and i'm not a oj fans but some of this seems unreal like why eveybody have tape recording all thoughtout this event like they know this would come and was ready for their payday off of someone that was willing to do a stupid act like going into that room without the police or even the hotel rent-a-cop to aviod this hassel he know where the people were with his items but was dumb enough to get setup by those involed. plus it don't make sense if oj waned people to have a gun he could have use a gun himself and did the jobs without the other guys look at the people he took the items from they was weak and small if oj killed two people by himself he could have taken them dont you think.

GLORIA   September 16th, 2008 12:03 pm ET

God Bless the Goldman family. They will always be a thorn in OJ's side. He thinks he will always get away with things because of his celebrity status. He has been very successful hiding his assets and him going after the sport items he felt he owned shows he doesn't want to give up anything he owns. I hate to see him when he sauters into court smiling and doing his little wave. It just gives him a bigger ego and that he feeds on. He thinks he can do no wrong.

chris   September 16th, 2008 1:11 pm ET

Jaime, your "Last Word" on day two of the Simpson trial is 100% wrong. If someone takes belongings from you that are in your possession and use any weapon including guns to obtain those items, that is a crime and should be prosectuted. How can you say that this shouldn't have gone to trial?

Carol Harwell   September 16th, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Some professional athletes use poor judgement and go afoul of the law. They make the news quite frequently. It seems to me that the athelete thinks that in a court of law, for them, there is a pass. It's a shame they risk everything by using such poor judgement and this could an example of a former famous athelete taking another risk and may/may not be another pass.
Carol Tx..

donna jo willis   September 16th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

For, you guys who think O J is guilty, shows you have a preconcieved opinion. If you had watched the murder trial, you would know , this was the only verdict possible as non of the facts or evidence fit. This was a setup! And I am a fan of OJ's. Have been for a long time and I believe him to be innocent! God bless OJ and his family.

cindy   September 17th, 2008 9:20 am ET

After watching video of the distance from the room to the front door and still to the vehicles. All walked in and walked out at same speed. If Fromong thought he was "robbed" all he had to do was call the front desk for security.CASE CLOSED. This is a bad comedy movie to make money. Write another "IF I DID IT" book O.J. and the Goldman"s will be there to collect.

Mike Hill   September 17th, 2008 10:36 am ET

Presumption of innocence is applicable only to a court of law, not to the opinions of the public at large. OJ is a man who got away with murdering two people in cold blood. So why would I ever think he would not be capable of any other crime? He is a thug, and sooner or later his criminal behavior will catch up with him, maybe this case, maybe not. Bottom line, OJ cannot help himself, he actually thinks he can do whatever he wants and get away with it. He is wrong.

Sherri   September 17th, 2008 12:33 pm ET

OJ's defense claims he was just retrieving "his" property. Regardless whether it's his property or not, he still committed ROBBERY to get it back!! Has the property even been reported stolen??? The proper way to get it back would have been to call the police or file in civil court to get the property back

Michelle   September 17th, 2008 12:48 pm ET

Interesting that objects taken which claim to have sentimental value are all items that can or would be sold on ebay.

Sentimental value = money in OJ's pocket.

I hope the Goldman's sit in on this trial.

Michelle   September 17th, 2008 12:52 pm ET

One more comment –

OJ certainly lacks the confidence or polish he once had in court.

He looks like the angry bitter man that he has become thanks to his own behavior.

Don   September 17th, 2008 8:37 pm ET

Who cares about the goldman family!!!!! Getting all that money wont bring back there son. And I dont see anyone saying God bless the Brown family? Remember, they lost a loved one also. I lost my brother 13 years ago,but I nore my family sued for wrongfull death. What good would money do? Help ease the grief? I DONT THINK SO.

TMS   September 18th, 2008 12:42 am ET

How this man continues to draw the argument around himself amazes me! Just when it's quiet, here he is in the news again.

And there are plenty besides OJ trying to make money off of it. I saw a T-Shirt that said "Innocent as OJ" and couldn't tell which side of the issue the person was on!

Only in America... "Innocent as OJ"

Rudy   September 18th, 2008 11:57 am ET

When you read all the comments here in this post, it is hard not to see the bias against Simpson and one can only imagine what the makeup pf the jurors is like. In the whole scheme of things, this is nothing less than an effort by prosecutors to put OJ in prison at all cost. This is not justice. It appears that OJ did in fact try to get law enforcement to assist in recovering what he deemed to be stolen property. The fact that he was reporting it to be stolen was good reason for law enforcement to investigate. This could not be a civil matter. I am no lawyer but it seems to me that law enforcement failed in their duty to do right. But I guess that their bias against OJ was just as strong as what is seen here in the comments. If law enforcement had done the right thing in the first place, this would not have happened. But they had no intention of helping Simpson. Bias? You bet it is.

Jean Winstead   September 18th, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Today, I watched LAST WORD, and again Jami is saying that the OJ case is about perception of a verdict in his murder trial. This has been repeated at least two days consecutively. I do believe that there is proof that OJ entered a motel room and the victims are convinced their rights have been infringed upon illegally. I can't believe Jami is convinced that OJ did nothing wrong in this case but she continually uses this biased verbage to imply that had Simpson not been freed in his murder trial this case would not have happened.

I do believe that if the CIVIL CASE had not happened he wouldn't be where he is. He could have used legal means to TRY to prove the property was his instead of using armed thugs.

John A. Birdsall   September 18th, 2008 3:55 pm ET

Jamie has nailed it once again! The very foundation of our democratic process is to place checks on governmental power. Nowhere is that more critical than in our criminal justice system. What was left out, however, is that the vast majority of defendants are NOT presumed innocent. Most people believe that the police don't arrest innocent people and that prosecutors don't overcharge and that the government's witnesses are truthful. What they don't see is the daily parade of lying jail house snitches, junk "science" presented by often mistaken "experts," and the painful overreaching of prosecutors that are often reacting to public hysteria. The 212 DNA exonerations simply offer us a window into the broken system – most of those convictions were based on mistaken ID's. I think that people should be exposed to everyday court proceedings unfiltered by the media to see for themselves how corrupt the system can be.

Sun   September 18th, 2008 4:23 pm ET

Presumed what? The media has already charged, tried, convicted, sentenced and hung him! It's no different than the case in Florida – that lady is already heading to serve her 40 year prison term as far as I can see. Birdsall has it right! The media has tainted our ability to see the truth! There is a balance between "the right to know", "freedom of the press" and linch mobs (dressed as newspaper writers and TV reporters!) but the media is a 600# gorilla! Balance that on a scale!

Richard   September 19th, 2008 11:40 pm ET

Quote from Sun 'but the media is a 600# gorilla! Balance that on a scale!'.
Thanks for that. Media in the courtroom has long since been an idiotic move. I see the media respond to their desire for self importance overpowering the judiciaries ability to negotiate wha is reasonable reporting.
Get the media out of the courtroom. The courts have long been playing to them, proof positive is the Anna Nicole Smith inquiries in Florida, and the subsequent trial. If that is not proof enough, (it should be), then we can take a look at who is reporting on TV now. Oh! It's characters from prior media recorded trials. Aside from a few honest lawyer reporters, who I will say I enjoy, the rest just need to go away!

Marie   September 21st, 2008 5:30 pm ET

JAMI I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ,THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MURDER TRAIL OF NICOLE AND RON. THIS IS ABOUT OJ GOING INTO A
HOTEL ROOM WITH SEVEN MEN AND TWO GUNS .YOU KEEP SAYING THE ROOM IS SMALL MAYBE HE DID NOT SEE THE GUNS OR KNOW THEY WERE TAKING GUNS. COME ON HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. HE COMMITED A CRIME .

Bob Koterba   September 24th, 2008 11:47 am ET

O.J. Simpson On Trial...
Outside of Mr. Simpson, this trial is riddled with a bunch of low level, lying misfits who have had consistent run ins with the legal system. The Prosecution is going way overboard in their charges resulting in a waste of taxpayers time and Dollars.
Very Poor of example of Our Justice system at work? Mr, Simpson does Not deserve this treatment as a United States Citizen.
On a good note, Beth is an Excellent trial reporter....

Bob Koterba
Port St. Lucie, Florida, 34983

Larry   October 5th, 2008 8:49 pm ET

There is a much larger issue than that of OJ Simpson. Its the power we give prosecuting attorneys in this country. There were five men two of them with guns that comitted armed robbery. The prosecutor used his power to bride some not with money but with something more their lifes and freedom. He handed out get out of jail cards as if it were candy. He did this to ensure a conviction against OJ simpson. He did this because he knows that most people will do as he ask to save their own freedom. This should be a crime in itself. Didnt we learn anything from Mike Nifong? My question is why didnt the prosecuting attorney give OJ shimpson a deal and convict the two gunmen? I think we all know the answer to that.

ALICE   October 7th, 2008 11:00 am ET

IF ANYONE WATCHED THE MURDER TRIAL THEY WOULD KNOW THE PROSECUTION DID NOT PROVE THEIR CASE. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR OJ TO COMMIT THESE MURDERS AND THERE ALSO WAS NOT ENOUGH BLOOD. RON GOLDMAN FOUGHT FOR HIS LIFE. HE WAS A BIG MAN. OJ HAD NO BRUISES ON HIM. READ THE BOOK "KILLING TIME" BY DONALD FREED AND RAYMOND P. BRIGGS, PH.D. YOU WILL READ ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WAS INVOLVED IN BEFORE THIS CRIME HAPPENED. DRUGS AND CRIME IN BRENTWOOD AND WHAT THE PRESS DID NOT REPORT. ALSO CHECK INTO BILL PAVELIC WHO WAS ON THE LAPD FOR MANY YEARS AND HIS EXPERIENCE WITH POLICE INJUSTICE. ESPECIALLY CONCERNING MARK FUHRMAN. THE MAIN REASON PEOPLE FEEL THE WAY THEY DO ABOUT OJ BEING GUILTY IS THEY LISTEN TO THE MEDIA. THEY HAD HIM CONVICTED FROM DAY ONE. THIS LAST TRIAL WAS A CIRCUS TOO. THEY WANTED HIM CONVICTED AND THEY GOT HIM CONVICTED. I GUESS THEY FINALLY WON.

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