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February 21, 2008
Posted: 10:37 AM ET

ELKHORN, Wisconsin — After a total of 24 hours of deliberation, the jury in Wisconsin v. Jensen sent a note at the relatively early hour of 8 p.m. ET on Wednesday, saying they had made much progress but was ready to call it a night.

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I watched the jurors as they entered the courtroom and they seemed to be in better moods. In fact, I saw a couple of smiles from female jurors toward the prosecutor’s table.

Those same jurors looked into the gallery and they appeared to me to be looking for Julie Jensen’s brothers, who always sit in the front row closest to the jury. The four brothers were still at the courthouse, but not in the courtroom at the moment.

I didn’t see any jurors look toward the defense table where Mark Jensen was sitting next to his attorney Craig Albee. Those are my objective observations and I won’t speculate on what they mean. We will see what happens today.

– Jean Casarez, In Session correspondent

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Kathie   February 21st, 2008 11:18 am ET

Has it dawned on anyone that everything that
Dillard said Mark Jensen did concerning the
suffocation of Julie Jensen never happened?
Julie’s own body told everyone she died of
poisoning not smothering. The analysis of
the experts said the smothering never happened.
So how could Mark Jensen relate the details
of something that never happened to Dillard?
The marks on her body were proved to be
artifacts of death and did not support suffocation.
The only one who kept saying anything about
suffocation was Detective Ratzburger during
his interrogation of Jensen. They had this sole
theory because they didn’t have any toxicology
results yet. If they did you can bet Dillard would
have had something about that to add to his
story.

Anita Miller   February 21st, 2008 11:40 am ET

Jean, thank you ssssooo much for your devotion to being a fair and always on top of all the details of each case you cover. Whether it be a HUGE issue or a small comment or look, we can always rely on you to give us the true feel of the courtroom! Hope that CNN appreciates the jem them have in you!!!!

carol   February 21st, 2008 11:51 am ET

did i hear that an engineer is on the jury. uh oh, shades of Spector trial.

Sue   February 21st, 2008 12:15 pm ET

Jean,

I heard a comment you made this morning on “Best Defense” saying how attempted suicide can be a cry for attention. I feel the defense messed up going with the whole suicide - frame up idea. Reasonable doubt could better be argued if the defense had come in with - Julie was desperate for attention, took antifreeze to make herself sick and to get attention from Mark, and frame him for attemped murder - BUT Julie went too far and accidentially killed herself.

Gina S   February 21st, 2008 12:17 pm ET

I love this jury! They are SO hardworking and asking for all of the pertinent exhibits. Hurray for these GREAT public servents. I got a jury call about 6 months ago. I have to say that I felt like I was the only one who wanted to serve out of about 400 people. Didn’t get to serve which was a disappointment. This is in New Jersey .

KH   February 21st, 2008 12:18 pm ET

Hoping today is the day…Does anyone know if Mrs. DeFazio, the third grade teacher, and Mr. DeFazio, the therapist are related? I wasn’t quick enough to check the spelling on each, but I have been wondering.

jodi snyder   February 21st, 2008 12:21 pm ET

i think mr albee is a great attorney. i think mark jensen should be found not guilty.

Betty   February 21st, 2008 12:27 pm ET

As to Mr. Jensen not testifying it is his constitutional right to decide. How much influence does the Defendant’s attorney opinion sway the defendant’s choice not to? Would an over-confident defense attorney advise him to testify after all this testimony - would that not only confuse the testimonies already heard? As with any trial we can only “guess” what is going on in the jury room but this is all our constitutional rights at work After viewing what I have seen - which is not all the trial - only bits and pieces - I hope the jury returns with a guilty verdict.

kirkland   February 21st, 2008 12:33 pm ET

Someone who is very close to their two kids will not commit suicide unless on heavy drugs etc.

jim martin   February 21st, 2008 12:36 pm ET

When the prosecutor uses a jailhouse informant it shows they are desparate. Informants have access to all the defendants discovery and weave a story to gain some deal. If the informant is legitimate he should be able to bring crime informantion to the stand that is not contained in the police reports and is missing from the investigation.

Jody Kreckel   February 21st, 2008 12:47 pm ET

Encouraging report Jean,
I have been on a jury that hung, it was a disagreeable experience, and I have always felt bad that the 10 of us panelists could not persuade the two against conviction of kidnapping and assault on a woman in a parking garage. I hope that if the jurors just logically look at the evidence, the witnesses who had no ax to grind, let alone the fact that Dr. Mainland didn’t wavier on her direct and cross as some of the defence witnesses did. Julie Jensen even if depressed, was planning her life around those children and even Mark. Maybe if there are some who aren’t sure, maybe they will be persuaded by the truth, and not have a particular agenda to fulfill.
Thanks for your informative reports! jk

Marguerite Beatty   February 21st, 2008 1:09 pm ET

I have not viewed every court scene, however if the prosecutor had brought up the type of home that Julie Jensen was raised in? Your guest with Lisa Bloome and Vinnie, this morning made mention of a ’50’s’ type husband. Depending on Julie’s family structure, she may have been very innocent regarding any intimate activities. She may have been raised in a loving devoted family. Whereas Mark’s over abundance of sex was more wordly and she was offended by it. Women who have not been raised in disfuntional families, and have never experienced such life, can certainly be taken totally advantage of by thinking and believing the husbands who ridicule them.

C Kline   February 21st, 2008 1:12 pm ET

I keep hearing all these people saying how Julie told them
she feared for her life.
Why did no one help her to leave or at least call the police?
Or at least confront Mark with this information?

chris   February 21st, 2008 1:16 pm ET

Lisa Bloom doesn’t always appear to have a clue (despite being in line of jurisprudence royalty) but she’s right about the central issue of deliberation here: Why did not the defendant take his wife to the ER? All the rest just corroborates the obvious conclusion drawn here.

Kate   February 21st, 2008 1:21 pm ET

Maybe she didn’t intend to kill herself , but only
make it appear that she was being poisoned
by her husband.
When she took the antifreeze then it was
combined with the prescription drugs it had
the lethal combination that killed her.
Wouldn’t be the first time a mixture of different
kinds of drugs killed someone..
Nevermind, adding to the equation antifreeze.
I think she just lost total control of her plan and
it backfired on her.
She wanted to punish her husband for his affair,
get rid of him and still be able to keep her
kids

Tammy   February 21st, 2008 1:22 pm ET

I find it odd that Julie told “strangers” her husband was trying to kill her but she told no one in her family or who was close to she and Mark. My suspicion is that no one close to them would have believed her. Strangers would be more easliy convinced. Pick the letter apart. It’s very telling. She indirectly expresses a deep love for Mark at the end…the man she claims is trying to kill her? She mentions details that are unimportant. Her handwriting changes quite a bit. These things are odd.
I think her marriage was falling apart, she was ashamed to admit this, she felt she had “nowhere to go” and she didn’t want to give up her home or the lifestyle she lived. She was convinced that Mark would get it all because she was a basket case. She said something about not wanting to leave her children in the letter.
I believe that Julie Jensen felt isolated and alone in that house with those children. And I believe Julie was angry. I believe she devised this plan to make herself sick and to have her husband take the fall for trying to kill her. She wanted him to go to jail…to punish him. That way, she really becomes the victim, everything is Mark’s fault, and she keeps everything. Best of all ,in her twisted mind…she doesn’t have him but neither does anyone else!
And you’ll never convince me otherwise without a heck of a lot more proof than what’s been demonstrated in THIS trial.

Denise - CA   February 21st, 2008 1:23 pm ET

Well I observed something today. While the jury is deliberating they are replaying testimony and I saw the responding officer testifying, which I missed when he actually testified. Here is my dilema. The officer said that when he arrived on the scene and he observed Julie Jensen on her stomach that the right eye, which was the only one he could see because of her position, was open. Now I think, that a person that has ingested ethylene glycol (regardless of how), Paxil and Ambien, and was sleeping and most likely near death, why would her eye be open. I can imagine that in her drugged state, that as she is being smothered and struggling to breath, that her eyes would be open and because she then dies, her eye stays open. I also think that a person determined to commit suicide and takes the poison to make that happen, would not go to the doctor the next day because she is sick and wants the doctor to make her better. why wouldn’t she tell the doctor she thought Mark was trying to kill her? Because he was with her.

betsy   February 21st, 2008 1:41 pm ET

I think that Julie would not leave her two kids behind just to frame her husband.

Eileen   February 21st, 2008 1:43 pm ET

I believe the computer searches on poison were clearly done by Mark Jensen from the time of day the searches were done. He killed her so Kelly could move in with him which is evidenced by how fast she was in that house after Julie died. It’s a little too “convenient” Julie committed suicide when Mark and Kelly were making plans for the future together.

mary   February 21st, 2008 1:43 pm ET

Only having seen the reporting on this since the jury has been out, as a juror I would be thinking about the evidence of a wife being subjected to control by her husband and how a victim can often feel helpless and not wanting to jeopardize the care of her children. I heard various people say why didn’t she leave or report her concerns.. she did share with some but nothing was done. To me, it’s obvious she suffered as a mentally abused wife — was there any testimony about this type of behavior?

Sharon   February 21st, 2008 1:46 pm ET

Great Work Jean!! I hope today is the day! NO suicide here. Where will Julies children live after his sentencing? Was the phone by Julies bed in working order?

Cathi   February 21st, 2008 2:15 pm ET

I watched the trial from the beginning. I don’t think my question is whether Mark is guilty but can the jury convict him applying the rules of the court. Reasonable doubt… The prosecution called some pretty shady characters to support their claim which Albee confused and picked apart. I am shocked deliberation have gone on this long and am beginning to believe that he just might get off. If he does it will be because Albee is brilliant…

eebla   February 21st, 2008 2:35 pm ET

I compliment tru tv for putting Jessica Hansen on tv. She has been doing excellent reporting for the Kenosha News. Hard waiting for the verdict!

Suzi   February 21st, 2008 2:54 pm ET

One of the posters said that there was only evidence of poisoning and not suffocation. What about Julie Jensen’s nose being bent to the side? This should raise a very big red flag. A lot is being made of the fact that Jule did not leave the house but if her husband kept brainwashing her about what a bad mother and wife she was because of her affair, that certainly would cause her to try to make her marriage work. Especially, for her children.

Both attorneys were excellent.

Susan   February 21st, 2008 3:00 pm ET

I was wondering if the jury was dressed today to meet the public always a sure sign of a verdict?? Susan

Leslyn   February 21st, 2008 3:10 pm ET

I’m shocked that so many of you believe that Julie is to blame for her death! Clearly you must have watched a completely different trial than I did. Any man that will not take his wife the the ER when his children are begging him has got to be guilty. As Jambois pointed out - how could Julie Jensen had the presence of mind to drag her dying body out of the bed to the computer to frame him and then drag herself bad to bed just in time to die. And I don’t know about you but I don’t sleep face first in the pillow…

Rick Arnold   February 21st, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Jean you are the best thing to hit “In session”! You are very fair to everyone involved in the cases you cover. I always look to your opinion in deciding guilt or innocence. I think the Jensen case is filled with reasonable doubt. I hope the jury realizes the testimony of Aaron Dillard- I wouldn’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Do you really think an educated professional man would go around admitting he killed his wife? I think NOT! Thanks for all your hard work, I look forward to your continued coverage of this trail. RA

Sydney   February 21st, 2008 3:11 pm ET

Great work on this case Jean. I have seen a large portion of the testimony given and have to admit I got a little hooked on the live steam that cnn ran daily. I hope cnn will continue to cover other trials in the near future. As for ‘ol Mark Jensen. Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt!

Susie   February 21st, 2008 3:13 pm ET

anyone notice the post person using the name eebla is albee spelled backwards. Put the tv screen up so we can watch this verdict please CNN

B.Davis   February 21st, 2008 3:16 pm ET

Great reporting! and the attornies know there “stuff”!
I believe Mark is guilty simply because he did not take Julie to
E. R.
I was hoping for a verdict today but guess Friday is as good a day as any!

wanda gossett   February 21st, 2008 3:29 pm ET

please let me kknow when verdict comes down

Gina   February 21st, 2008 3:37 pm ET

I hated to see Mark Jensen’s face flashed on my TV screen smiling. Hope he’ll be found guilty. Both Lawyers are excellent!

Al Novy   February 21st, 2008 3:38 pm ET

NOT GUILTY NOT GUILTY NOT GUILTY

Sharrie   February 21st, 2008 3:40 pm ET

Is there any hope that the “In Session” time can extend back to 5 o’clock.

We’re missing so much!!!

Pam   February 21st, 2008 3:43 pm ET

Am I the only lost when In Session coverage ends and the jury is still out there, able to come in with a verdict at any time? Will it be covered…on TruTV…or CNN? I miss the old days.

Sharon   February 21st, 2008 3:43 pm ET

The questions about what medical evidence would be left if Mark Jensen smothered Julie in the manner Aaron Dilliard testified about don’t take into account that, from Mark Jensen’s own description of Julie at the time, she sounds like she was in at least a semicomatose state. It would not take much pressure to push someone’s head, while in that state, into a pillow and cause them to stop breathing. Remember, in addition to the ethylene glycol, she also had Ambien and Benadryl in her system, both of which are sedating.

Sharon   February 21st, 2008 3:44 pm ET

An alive picture of Julie shows her nose is to the left…. but in the post mortem picture her nose goes to the right. That should help clear any unwanted questions still lingering. !!

Laurie -- CA   February 21st, 2008 3:44 pm ET

I understand why “Prior Bad Acts” aren’t usually allowed, but why are they allowed in to slam the victim. Let’s remember who is alive & who is dead. Seems to me that fair is fair. The victim isn’t there is defend him or herself — unlike the accused & his attorneys.

Carol   February 21st, 2008 3:45 pm ET

I predict not guilty or a hung jury. Why? REASONABLE DOUBT.

Terry Anderson   February 21st, 2008 3:45 pm ET

IF Mark Jensen is found not guilty and my name were Kelly Jensen, I would think long and hard before I toasted the victory with a glass of wine!

Julene   February 21st, 2008 3:53 pm ET

This jury is scaring me!! i live in Wisconsin and have seem some
verdicts that were insane!!
I’ve never heard of anyone pushing their nose so hard into a pillow
that it bent.

Judy   February 21st, 2008 3:58 pm ET

Does anyone know what the 3 counts are? I am predicting a hung jury Again!!!!! Too bad for poor Julie.

Gabriela   February 21st, 2008 4:10 pm ET

There are two things that bother me.

One is, if Julie wanted to commit suicide she could have taken advantage of any prescription drugs she had available to her. She had a doctor who easily could have prescribed sleeping pills along with the ones she was already taken. It does not make any sense that she would take the antifreeze over any sleeping pills if she wanted to kill herself. She did have some medical background and I am pretty sure she was aware that people could abuse prescription drugs for other purposes rather than medical. She had that door open if she wanted to use it.

The second is, if my husband is sick for one day, I might not take him to the hospital, but if he is so ill that he can not take care of himself I will call the ambulance. I could not leave anyone suffer for two or more days knowing that two or three days ago he or she was functioning as any other human being. Mr. Jensen actions do show emotional domestic violence towards Julie. He is for sure an intelligent guy who does not grab a gun to shoot someone. He uses his mind instead to accomplish what he wants. There is more to Julie and Mark Jensen relationship.

Domestic violence is no joke. Females sometimes don’t leave the household because they are so terrorized that they can not think straight. Many of them only leave until they end up in the hospital or dead.

Cathy   February 21st, 2008 4:17 pm ET

If Julie was going to kill herself would it not have been eaiser to just go and take the whole bottle of Ambien that was sitting on the kitchen sink? Much less painful then drinking ethylene glycol.

Skeptic   February 21st, 2008 4:30 pm ET

Looks like the deliberation has turned into a holdout. Some people are not very bright. Which part of murder don’t they understand? Poisoning her? Refusing to take her to the hospital while watching her dying?

Joanie   February 21st, 2008 4:32 pm ET

It seems that Mark Jensen is a horrible person on so many levels, but being a miserable person does not make him a murderer. He is so fortunate to have Craig Albee as his attorney. He is fabulous, and I don’t see how anyone of intelligence can find Jensen guilty based on the reasonable doubt that Albee has so beautifully demonstrated.

Sue   February 21st, 2008 4:34 pm ET

There is always someone who wants the media attention that a holdout would get. Give me a break. Who would swallow anti freeze for attention? If she did look up poisons she would know that it is fatal. Why would someone deliberately cause so much pain and suffering to themselves and in front of the children she loved when they could just swallow the bottle of ambien or paxil pills or both and die asleep?

Pat   February 21st, 2008 4:38 pm ET

Friday is Verdict day.

ellen collins   February 21st, 2008 4:41 pm ET

This jury should have been back with a guilty verdict within the first four hours! This is absurd!

Rhonda   February 21st, 2008 4:41 pm ET

Jean & Beth thanks so much for all your hard and accurate reporting, now would just like an update. Thanks

Pete   February 21st, 2008 4:42 pm ET

This has been an amazing process to watch and witness first hand. I am interested in the comments being left behind by people who basically have it all figured out. Sorry folks you have picked and chosen the details you want to use to make your case NOT the thing a jury would be doing right now. They have to weigh ALL the evidence. I would be having a hell of a time in the jury room right now because I believe that both side put on persuasive cases.
However I keep going back to two things. 1.) Mark’s decision to not take his wife to and emergency room when she was extremely sick in bed, this disturbs me, Apparently it also disturbed one of his children so much so his child made mention of it. 2.) If mark want to kill julie why not just give her a massive dose of the poison why do it slowly? Clearly it wasn’t enough to kill her right away so why drag it out?
Unless she took it in a attempt to garner sympathy.

Cody   February 21st, 2008 4:48 pm ET

Obviously just based on the comments of people watching the trial that there is reasonable doubt.

Gennette   February 21st, 2008 4:55 pm ET

I am tired of hearing all of these people saying that Julie Jensen had ample opportunity to get out, and leave Mark, and thus must have committed suicide. If this were the case, there would be virtually no murders of domestic violence victims. So many women just don’t get out for whatever reason. This is a very common occurence in this type of situation.

Susan   February 21st, 2008 5:19 pm ET

Day 3 - he’s going to walk free.

jillian   February 21st, 2008 6:18 pm ET

Thank you to each and every memeber of the jury

st   February 21st, 2008 8:48 pm ET

I cannot thank the people on the jury enough for bringing what I believe is justice to a very sad situation. May Julie’s brothers now find peace and get back the nephews that were so unjustly taken away from them when their sister was so cruelly murdered. It is not too late for the boys to bond with their uncles and have a sense of normalcy that was robbed of them at such an early age. God bless the loved ones of Julie Jensen. I also have compassion for Mark’s family as his parents and sister did not commit a crime and have much pain. So many victims in this horrible case.

Vee   February 21st, 2008 9:50 pm ET

I have watched this trial from the very beginning and was convinced
Jensen was guilty.

The old saying “what goes around “comes around!

Victory for Julie.

Dot   February 22nd, 2008 10:58 am ET

What happened to reasonable doubt? I felt there was plenty.
I felt he was innocent; she was an attention seeker and she
took the anti-freeze and pills. She overdid it and died not really
meaning too. Think about it.

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